"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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How long after 1st date do you wait to call?

MikeEdward1973

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Normally, if I meet up on a Friday, I'll call on a Monday. If it's a Saturday, I'll still call on a Monday.

Someone said earlier they wait 5 days.

Do you guys suggest waiting until, say, Wednesday?

A bit of context: I'm 34, most of the women I'm talking about are 27 to 32, working professionals, etc.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Depends on the phase of the moon. Y'know the moon has an effect on a woman's cycle.
 

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MikeEdward1973 said:
Normally, if I meet up on a Friday, I'll call on a Monday. If it's a Saturday, I'll still call on a Monday.

Someone said earlier they wait 5 days.

Do you guys suggest waiting until, say, Wednesday?

A bit of context: I'm 34, most of the women I'm talking about are 27 to 32, working professionals, etc.
I think you are supposed to call the next day or maximum 2 days after the date.

I made the mistake once of waiting until I saw the girl in class on Tuesday (we went out on Saturday night) and she lost interest because of it.
 

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Yeah 5 days is way too long ...makes you look like a player, nobody is so busy they can't make a 30 second phone call ...

women try and play this " sorry I did not call , I was busy " to me that means not interested or game player ...sorry my friend trix are for kids and I don't look like a damn rabbit

waiting after the weekend I can see ....

:rockon:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Depends on the phase of the moon. Y'know the moon has an effect on a woman's cycle.
Which moon do you use? If I'm a bit in debt, more then I would like, for that month to go by the phase of Io. If I'm feeling a bit timid and I'm afraid to call I'll go with Phobos.

At any rate, there's only one moon that's important --->:moon:
 

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Bible_Belt said:
What if you have sex on the first date? How does that change things?
Depends on when you end up going home. Rule of thumb:

That night = the next day
Next morning = 2-3 days.
 

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mahon83050 said:
I think you are supposed to call the next day or maximum 2 days after the date.

I made the mistake once of waiting until I saw the girl in class on Tuesday (we went out on Saturday night) and she lost interest because of it.
I think then I'll stick with 2 to 3 days.
 

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Aenigma said:
Depends on when you end up going home. Rule of thumb:

That night = the next day
Next morning = 2-3 days.

OK, thanks. That's kind of what I thought. I bailed after sex, and I was going to call her late tonight.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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MikeEdward1973 said:
most of the women I'm talking about are 27 to 32, working professionals, etc.
Ah ! this is your lucky day Mikey -

Some FREE insight for ya - "working professionals" are great to date in the first few months. They are in 'career' mode during the day - all work and sooooo serious, and they usually work long hours .
So any little snippets of romantic FUN and or ****y funny stuff that you can email to 'em during the day is eagerly comsumed by them . I love those women who are ALL business in their striped suits . You know the ones; hair slicked back and striding along like the deputy principal coming down the hall.
The trick is to play with their girly side while they are at work . Don't discuss their work.they get enough of shop talk- get some ideas from David D and "go out to play " with them.

Good hunting .
 

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jophil28 said:
Ah ! this is your lucky day Mikey -

Some FREE insight for ya - "working professionals" are great to date in the first few months. They are in 'career' mode during the day - all work and sooooo serious, and they usually work long hours .
So any little snippets of romantic FUN and or ****y funny stuff that you can email to 'em during the day is eagerly comsumed by them . I love those women who are ALL business in their striped suits . You know the ones; hair slicked back and striding along like the deputy principal coming down the hall.
The trick is to play with their girly side while they are at work . Don't discuss their work.they get enough of shop talk- get some ideas from David D and "go out to play " with them.

Good hunting .
Ok, got it. note to self: stop harping on work.

Should I ask who David D is?
 

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Aenigma said:
Which moon do you use? If I'm a bit in debt, more then I would like, for that month to go by the phase of Io. If I'm feeling a bit timid and I'm afraid to call I'll go with Phobos.

At any rate, there's only one moon that's important --->:moon:
Alright, just as long as you don't tell any Uranus jokes.
 
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