"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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How important is face over body?

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IMO the good looking dude who is chubby, skinny, short, avergae build will alwyas get more girls attention?!?!?

However, I would say if you are ugly or just average building a great body can get you girls and especially women over 25 quite easily. Especially as many dudes over 25-30 are now getting a bit chuby out off shape etc..

I think 16-20 face is no.1?!?!? 30+ 0lder women are keen on buff toned bodies, sign off virtily and high testosterone!!

Overall though I think haveing a good looking face would be better, even with an average body and minimal focus od diet and training you can get girls.

whereas guy with the body has to train and diet hard so hes woring for the pu$$$y the good looking guy dont need do no work.



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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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donnyjondeppjuando said:
I think 16-20 face is no.1?!?!? 30+ 0lder women are keen on buff toned bodies, sign off virtily and high testosterone!!
30+ women are keen on guys with lots of money or rent-a-daddies to take care of their kids.
 

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It's a combination of everything that's being taken into account. It's pointless to argue wheather face or body is more important. You should have it all, you should be leading the competition and improving where it needs it. The other thing is that personality is connected to the way you look, the confidence, the swag, the general level of hapiness and satisfaction, your outlook. You can't separate the body from the soul.
 
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PapiChulo said:
It's a combination of everything that's being taken into account. It's pointless to argue wheather face or body is more important. You should have it all, you should be leading the competition and improving where it needs it. The other thing is that personality is connected to the way you look, the confidence, the swag, the general level of hapiness and satisfaction, your outlook. You can't separate the body from the soul.
thats why, gym+diet+good body= testosterone+happy chemicals= confidence+self esteem etc


Thats why Gym is good even if you butt ugly lol
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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PapiChulo said:
It's a combination of everything that's being taken into account. It's pointless to argue wheather face or body is more important. You should have it all, you should be leading the competition and improving where it needs it. The other thing is that personality is connected to the way you look, the confidence, the swag, the general level of hapiness and satisfaction, your outlook. You can't separate the body from the soul.
Wrong topic but right post. Too many guys try to be lazy & just focus on aspect without the others. You've got to put all the pieces to the puzzle(or as many as your individual existence gives you).
 

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I think you should focus on your personality before you focus on your physical qualities.
Yep. My guess is that you aren't setting the world on fire with people when talking to them djdj. I bet "creepy" and "annoying" get thrown around alot in your presence. Work on that before you worry about being good looking. Believe me it will help more in life.
 
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