How essential is game for attracting girls?

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Game is some combination of looks, money, status, and personality.

In what order? Or is that the order?

 

[SW15]

In what order? Or is that the order?

The mix can be any order but I think the order that I have above is generally accurate.

Bill Gates was a 0 on looks on personality, but got a career woman at his workplace due to his money and CEO status in that workplace.

There are 6'0"+ men who are fit but broke and getting a lot of vagina.

In the mid-2000s, Neil Strauss was a 5'6" balding man in his 30s without enough money or status to compensate for that, but he got laid based on his suave personality.

 

[RangerMIke]

What is called 'game' is generally useless in attracting women.

Attraction is some combination of Looks, Money, and Status... what any individual women is attracted to depends on how much weight she puts in these three characteristics. Example: If looks are REALLY important to a woman, looks might be 75% of her attraction, with Money and Status sharing the rest of the 25%. A gold digger will base 75% of her 'attraction' on Money, Status will be 20%, Looks 5%. The younger a woman is, the more attracted to Status she will be... why? Simple, younger men have not had time to build wealth, so women grade young men on their ability to make friends, and lead... which is an indicator of potential earning.

Here is the kicker... if a gold digger gets a rich man, MONEY becomes less important... since she already has it. This is why you have the wives of rich men banging the Cabana boy on the side. SO depending on what is going on in a woman's life... what she is looking for will change with the emotional whims of a butterfly.

GAME is part of the sales process... to use the car salesman analogy... Attraction gets the buyer on the lot... GAME is closing the sale. Or fishing: Attraction is bating the hook and finding the right spot to fish: game is really in the fish.

You can not 'game' a chick if she does not think you have what she is looking for in that emotional moment.

 

[Bingo-Player]

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Although in general, you need a bit I guess (but I'd say any normally socialised guy already has enough 'game' and already knows whatever he would read in a PUA book)
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disagree vast majority of men are clueless and very outcome dependent , iv'e seen guys literally BEG women for dates

Ask the next girl you smash to show you her insta DM's it will be an eye opener to just how much men know about women

Game can't really do much to attract them some girls are either into you or they arent

but it can definitely interest them and keep them around for a long time if you know what your doing

I liken it to a hook once they are on it can keep them on , where as being weak and needy will allow them to quickly wriggle off

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I think there are as many definitions of game as there are posters on this topic.

Game is everything from sexual seduction and logistics to the more deep-level stuff like handling **** tests, maintaining frame, ability to walk away, abundance mentality, setting firm boundaries, screening for red flags, handling disrespect/gaslighting, understanding female nature, etc.

Most of the posters in this thread are wrong. For instance if you cannot properly handle gaslighting or any forms of blatant disrespect, you'll never have a quality LTR.

 

[Epicwinguy]

If you're decent looking with social skills you can get lucky from time to time, but game is the main barrier to entry as far as taking control of your dating life