"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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In a situation when the girl body are particularly hot like hb9, face on 7 territory and her personality reflect of a quality women? Im considering her for my LTR.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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A 9 with a sh!t personality will turn into a 6 real quick for me. Likewise, a 6 with an awesome personality can make me fall absolutely head over heels for her.
Looks make you walk over but personality makes you stick around.
 

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A 9 with a sh!t personality will turn into a 6 real quick for me. Likewise, a 6 with an awesome personality can make me fall absolutely head over heels for her.
Looks make you walk over but personality makes you stick around.
Damn that brilliant, this girl seems to be what im looking for for years.
 

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A 9 with a sh!t personality will turn into a 6 real quick for me. Likewise, a 6 with an awesome personality can make me fall absolutely head over heels for her.
Looks make you walk over but personality makes you stick around.
The more one of those talk and act the more beautiful they look.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Why does it matter what anonymous strangers posting on the internet think of her? None of us have met her, know her, or have even seen a single photo of her. You're the one who has to live with her. You decide. Then you live with the consequences, good or bad or rather, good and bad.

In a situation when the girl body are particularly hot like hb9, face on 7 territory and her personality reflect of a quality women? Im considering her for my LTR.
 

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Why does it matter what anonymous strangers posting on the internet think of her? None of us have met her, know her, or have even seen a single photo of her. You're the one who has to live with her. You decide. Then you live with the consequences, good or bad or rather, good and bad.
Ive already have describe her in numeric order by sosuave standards.. Therefore theres no need for her picture, and sosuavers are no stranger to me, many leads a great life, its a satisfaction an the enjoyment having a quality discussion in this forum, that make the difference compared to strangers like you said.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Complete package = LTR
Anything less = Plate
Ratings = nothing substantial and relative at best

And by complete package, I don't just mean her looks and personality. She has to have the same thought process, interests, beliefs, family lifestyle as you too amongst other things. This is what really keeps the LTR a LTR...
 

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I don't use the rating system either but i's good to get an idea.

9 body, 7 face is 8 overall. Quite high for my taste but could make for a good partner. A 'butterface' will always make for a better gf than a stunner in the face with mediocre body with all else being equal. The stunner gets so much more attention and develops entitlement compared to the other way around. Which also means she will have developed her character more, thus making her a better partner.
But, this is just general thoughts on looks. Vet her personality and you'll have your answer.
 

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Looks, Personality & Status. You can have two but you can never have all three...
 

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Ive already have describe her in numeric order by sosuave standards.. Therefore theres no need for her picture, and sosuavers are no stranger to me, many leads a great life, its a satisfaction an the enjoyment having a quality discussion in this forum, that make the difference compared to strangers like you said.
You'll go crazy trying to micro-manage and micro-analyze this. Just use your intuition. If she's hot and fun to hang out with, great. If she's hot but not so fun to hang out with, she might work as an fwb you see casually.
 

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My ex is a total looker.... lived with her for 25yrs (im 42 and we seperated when i was 41)... made gorgeous kids... she had a great hour glass figure... pretty face.. cooked well... sex USED to be great... easily an 8 based on looks.... didnt know how i got so lucky. However... the last 7 yrs of our marriage i became not good enough.. she casted away her family and mine.. withheld sex for months unless she was drinking... her attitude stunk like mad... she still had the looks even tho she was older now (got together at 15 n 16).. but that attitude of hers totally made her a 4 or less... i did try to save the marriage for the kids but resistance was futile... currently im seeing a lady you all would likely consider a 5 or 4.5 at my age... shes a couple years older than me... her kids are grown.. stable job.. needs a bit of excercise but im motivating her.... she worships my cok when time allows.. we even take turns buyin when we eat out and shes 100x more loving, caring, generous and humble than my entitled ex is (who left me for a bigger wallet) and that makes her a 7 or 8 just based on how she behaves.. she makes me feel more than adequate... vs my ex makin me feel like a pile of shyt for years...... ill take a genuine nice lady whos maybe not so high and mighty or overly good looking over a contemptuous ungreatful hot one.... just saying.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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A rating scale is subject, and only useful as a means of conveying one's level of attraction; however, it seems to me that the level of physical attractiveness is really from 7 to 10 -- with 10 being mostly theoretically. In practice, the scale of attractiveness is probably just 7 to 9. So, I wouldn't call a 7 a "butterface" ....unless the attraction was 100% physical, and her personality was so hideous that you could barely maintain an erection.
With this girl i can do it all night with half to 2 hours rest in between and ride for 2 hours.. The chemistry are fvckin crazy. Shes are in exclusive relationships with me yesterday.
 

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Complete package = LTR
Anything less = Plate
Ratings = nothing substantial and relative at best

And by complete package, I don't just mean her looks and personality. She has to have the same thought process, interests, beliefs, family lifestyle as you too amongst other things. This is what really keeps the LTR a LTR...
Thats what im exactly expect for an LTR, she fiits them all.. Plus shes been singles for 4 years enjoy being with herself, and no guy in between.. Rare as a unicorns.
 

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You'll go crazy trying to micro-manage and micro-analyze this. Just use your intuition. If she's hot and fun to hang out with, great. If she's hot but not so fun to hang out with, she might work as an fwb you see casually.
As i said this are the forum i loved, not micro managing things.. Yes i do it all with my guts feelings, and yes you're right about the chemistry is as important for LTR.
 

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10 is like a model or something. People that can make money with their looks (pre-e-thot)

9 is basically flawless and honestly would probably give you just as much sexual gratification as a ten.

8 It's like a nine but maybe one or two flaws, she couldn't be a model or anything like that but still gorgeous and really gratifying sexually. You aren't really losing that much on the sex appeal in my opinion with an 8.

7 is still a head turner and in a normal setting would probably be the most attractive woman in the room but definitely a noticeable drop from the eight. People will still call her hot but she is getting into "pretty" territory.

6 is the "cute" girl. Usually a major physical flae somewhere but overall package is not bad. They are attractive but not necessarily sexually stimulating.

5 It's just what you're barely attracted to and can perform with physically.
You made an analogy of looks being equal to their sexual power and potency, which is not true at all... Looks is one entirely different quality. Sexual power and skill is another.
 

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sex tends to be better with hotter women though, or at least to want to have more sex with them. I have examples to the contrary too but I think people generally accept this.
It can excite you. But sexual power and sexual energy is something inside of someone and it has nothing to do with looks at all. It's why some not so good in the face, but nice body men and women can get people addicted to their sex.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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