picard
Master Don Juan
How do you guys negotiate for salary raise with your company?
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
how do you negotiate for salary raise?
- Thread starter picard
- Start date
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Shiftkey
Master Don Juan
I ask directly. If your performance is good and you've been with the company long enough, odds are they will grant your request based on that rather than how you ask.
dannowillbookem
Master Don Juan
use ****y and funny, be confident and smooth. if you need to, mention that youre may start looking otherwise. if they think that you wont leave, theres no reason to up your pay.
Marlimus
Senior Don Juan
Good lord, a 16 year old giving a grown man advice. What do you know bout the corporate world, boy?if you need to, mention that youre may start looking otherwise.
Picard, never indicate that you are looking around for another company unless your actually giving them your month's notice. Indicating that you might jump ship would make the management of any firm not want to promote you later on because you represent a risk. A recent study in the Academy of Management Journal concluded that it takes a minimum of $500.00 in advertising, retraining and transition costs to replace even the least of employees. The higher up the position of the person who quits, the higher the cost, so the Human Resource department would put a note on your company file if you indicate to your supervisor that you might leave. Unless you are at a sufficiently high managerial position such that they cannot afford to lose you, or you possess critical sensitive information, don't play that game.
As for asking for pay raise, WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO GET IT. In marketing you do not ask the customer if he would like to buy, you ask which credit card they would like to charge it to, as though it were the most natural thing in the world.
Shiftkey
Master Don Juan
This tactic has actually worked for me, but it's very risky. I don't recommend it unless it's some sh1tty job you won't miss anyway.dannowillbookem said:use ****y and funny, be confident and smooth. if you need to, mention that youre may start looking otherwise. if they think that you wont leave, theres no reason to up your pay.
Picard, weren't you looking for a job? How's that coming along?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
LowPlainsDrifter
Senior Don Juan
You have to ask yourself for it first...
You need to honestly ask yourself if you deserve it.
"The Price of gas has gone up" or "I'm buying an HD TV and would like to be able to more easily afford the payments" don't really cut it.
Think like the owner of that business and ask yourself if:
- Your work output is consistently higher than that of your peers doing the
same job.
- You consistently go the extra mile
- You engage in very little or no personal emailing or web surfing at work
- You truly get along well with your boss and others in your department
- If you owned that particular business, would you grant yourself a raise?
I'm assuming that you're speaking of a pay boost that's "off schedule" relative to a normal annual review?
You need to honestly ask yourself if you deserve it.
"The Price of gas has gone up" or "I'm buying an HD TV and would like to be able to more easily afford the payments" don't really cut it.
Think like the owner of that business and ask yourself if:
- Your work output is consistently higher than that of your peers doing the
same job.
- You consistently go the extra mile
- You engage in very little or no personal emailing or web surfing at work
- You truly get along well with your boss and others in your department
- If you owned that particular business, would you grant yourself a raise?
I'm assuming that you're speaking of a pay boost that's "off schedule" relative to a normal annual review?
brucevangeorge
Banned
Why don't you observe how others in your department/company/similar company have done it? Could help for pointers and such.
dannowillbookem
Master Don Juan
haha i just realized that this isnt hs people. yeahhh that tactic worked well for my old busboy job but i take it back for corporate world.Marlimus said:Good lord, a 16 year old giving a grown man advice. What do you know bout the corporate world, boy?
GirlCrazy
Master Don Juan
You don't get what you don't ask for.
If you think you deserve a raise / promotion, then ask for it.
The only time I ever threatened to walk if I didn't get the promotion was when it was a respect issue. The boss was pissed, but he gave it to me with the spiel that "the next guy who threatens to walk, I'm just gonna let him walk" to which I replied "that's between you and the next guy". He made some hand gesture and said "You are now a senior software engineer, now get the fvck out of my office before I change my mind..."
If you think you deserve a raise / promotion, then ask for it.
The only time I ever threatened to walk if I didn't get the promotion was when it was a respect issue. The boss was pissed, but he gave it to me with the spiel that "the next guy who threatens to walk, I'm just gonna let him walk" to which I replied "that's between you and the next guy". He made some hand gesture and said "You are now a senior software engineer, now get the fvck out of my office before I change my mind..."
picard
Master Don Juan
I got new job. hurray ! I am on probation for 1month. however, other companies are asking me to jump ship. They will inteview me within 1-2weeks.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Skilla_Staz
Master Don Juan
Girl crazy. Chuck Norris Facts. Got to love them. (Your Signature)
As for the topic, bring up why you deserve one. Tell them all you've done for them. Make it pursuasive, and ordered. The more prepared you are for whatever they throw at you, the more likely you are to get it.
As for the topic, bring up why you deserve one. Tell them all you've done for them. Make it pursuasive, and ordered. The more prepared you are for whatever they throw at you, the more likely you are to get it.
GirlCrazy
Master Don Juan
Thanks. I'm still trying to figure out why it's funny. I printed out the top 100 Chuck facts, and the wife grabbed it and said "this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen." Only thing was that she read it all the way through, and every once in a while cackled like a hyena.Girl crazy. Chuck Norris Facts. Got to love them. (Your Signature)
Skilla_Staz
Master Don Juan
Yes, those are quite entertaining
Chuck Norris qualified for (some race) with a top speed of 324 miles per hour, without a car.
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Chuck Norris qualified for (some race) with a top speed of 324 miles per hour, without a car.
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