Are texts like "I really shouldn't be spending so much time hanging out with a girl I'm not dating" or "get back to me when you're sick of your boyfriend" effective for girls who want to hang out (but aren't really interested or have bfs)?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
How do you let a girl know you will not wait around for her?
- Thread starter Siragoos
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
PlayHer Man
Banned
By spinning plates and not waiting around for her.
Captain obvious. :yes:
Captain obvious. :yes:
VladPatton
Master Don Juan
You don't need to text her or explain to her jack shıt. You disappear when you're sick of her shıt and find something better. You show her you're not waiting around for her by actually not waiting around for her!
Do you mean:
How do you be impatient with her in such a stylish way as to push her into having sex with you?
How about saying explicitly what you're trying to say implicitly:
"Have sex with me or I'll leave you."
and the famous classic: "PLEASE HAVE SEX WITH ME."
The thing is, the lack of sex isn't the problem. You will eventually have sex with a girl. Its approaching relationships in this viewpoint of getting what you want or storming off. It ruins trust and hurries an otherwise natural progression.
People seem to believe its possible to get consistent, enjoyable sex outside of a relationship. A relationship, so the thinking goes, is just one way of two people coming together. It also happens, according to internet legend, that two people might just come together in a trustless, semi-meaningless, random fvck-session. Learning a set of skills from the internet helps you be king of these trustless fvck-trysts, so the legend has it.
This exists in men's minds but not in actual fact. People talk about wanting to be in a relationship or not wanting to be in a relationship, wanting to be a boyfriend or just dating, but the truth is you will barely ever get consistent pvssy outside of a relationship.
To a very large extent you don't have a choice: saying you want sex outside a relationship is like saying you won't do any work but you'll collect the paycheck.
The one or two times you get it outside of a relationship, is just that: one or two times. Occasionally it gets prolonged into a booty call. Its painful to watch so much hype created and willfully encouraged by a couple guys seeing other guys having an ONS here or there, and thinking stray-lays and fly-by-night missions are a golden unexplored niche of the dating world. Or even the New Paradigm of Dating. They aren't that at all. They're very much the Lost and Found Basket of the dating world.
Watching young guys trying for this 5% of stray pvssy, and watching them break the rules of trust and relationship-building to pursue this dream of stray lays, is like watching a generation of men be lied to that they can all be actors, musicians or English professors. The market won't support it.
You know, being chivalrous towards women does NOT have a lower success rate than cold approach + DJ aloofness (which is ~5-10%). It actually has a much higher success rate in my opinion (I'd say ~25-30%). Its just the anger and pain from one missed girl drives men so hard that they give up on it and turn to these methods.
But Chivalry has an added bonus: the dude didn't have to fake himself out that he doesn't care about it, so when he gets the candy, he's able to really enjoy it. Unlike us, the frightened moment when the mask of coolness drops and "oh I'm actually fvcking her now".... yeah.... when the surreal game of pretend coolness actually works... that's one challenging moment! end rant!
How do you be impatient with her in such a stylish way as to push her into having sex with you?
How about saying explicitly what you're trying to say implicitly:
"Have sex with me or I'll leave you."
and the famous classic: "PLEASE HAVE SEX WITH ME."
The thing is, the lack of sex isn't the problem. You will eventually have sex with a girl. Its approaching relationships in this viewpoint of getting what you want or storming off. It ruins trust and hurries an otherwise natural progression.
People seem to believe its possible to get consistent, enjoyable sex outside of a relationship. A relationship, so the thinking goes, is just one way of two people coming together. It also happens, according to internet legend, that two people might just come together in a trustless, semi-meaningless, random fvck-session. Learning a set of skills from the internet helps you be king of these trustless fvck-trysts, so the legend has it.
This exists in men's minds but not in actual fact. People talk about wanting to be in a relationship or not wanting to be in a relationship, wanting to be a boyfriend or just dating, but the truth is you will barely ever get consistent pvssy outside of a relationship.
To a very large extent you don't have a choice: saying you want sex outside a relationship is like saying you won't do any work but you'll collect the paycheck.
The one or two times you get it outside of a relationship, is just that: one or two times. Occasionally it gets prolonged into a booty call. Its painful to watch so much hype created and willfully encouraged by a couple guys seeing other guys having an ONS here or there, and thinking stray-lays and fly-by-night missions are a golden unexplored niche of the dating world. Or even the New Paradigm of Dating. They aren't that at all. They're very much the Lost and Found Basket of the dating world.
Watching young guys trying for this 5% of stray pvssy, and watching them break the rules of trust and relationship-building to pursue this dream of stray lays, is like watching a generation of men be lied to that they can all be actors, musicians or English professors. The market won't support it.
You know, being chivalrous towards women does NOT have a lower success rate than cold approach + DJ aloofness (which is ~5-10%). It actually has a much higher success rate in my opinion (I'd say ~25-30%). Its just the anger and pain from one missed girl drives men so hard that they give up on it and turn to these methods.
But Chivalry has an added bonus: the dude didn't have to fake himself out that he doesn't care about it, so when he gets the candy, he's able to really enjoy it. Unlike us, the frightened moment when the mask of coolness drops and "oh I'm actually fvcking her now".... yeah.... when the surreal game of pretend coolness actually works... that's one challenging moment! end rant!
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Skyline
Master Don Juan
You dont "let her know" by words, you do it by your actions.
Its simple, vlad, driggs, and player even already said it. Withdraw and or spin plates.
Its simple, vlad, driggs, and player even already said it. Withdraw and or spin plates.
Don't say anything.Siragoos said:
Or if you have to say something, take your time saying it.
And whatever it is you have to say be blase about it.
In short, stop caring. That's the most powerful message you can convey.
But only if you mean it.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I totally disagree with that about stray lays (good term, that.) The thing with that is, you have to have tons of women on the stringer. If there are enough, you have good odds that one or more of them are going to be DTF with more or less coaxing at any given time. I've gone years between relationships and in fact I've had relatively few relationships altogether, but there are always women who are looking to screw.
That said, you have to work to keep your little black book healthy. Personally I always thought that was much less work and bull**** than relationships but everybody's experience is different.
That said, you have to work to keep your little black book healthy. Personally I always thought that was much less work and bull**** than relationships but everybody's experience is different.
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Drop her ass and spin more plates.
Case closed.
Case closed.
PlayHer Man
Banned
Ignore her and keep spinning plates.Siragoos said:
Its not as complex as you are making it. How do you "show" a restaurant you're not going to tolerate bad service? --> You LEAVE and go to another one.