Spot on, a woman worth your time will insist on 50/50, perhaps more.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
How do you justify spending your hard-earned cash on a woman?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I'm not really talking down to dollar and cents. For example, I book the hotel/travel, she takes care of the activities and food. I've had woman complain about gas money when she comes to my place, even when I paid for cooking and activities. I gave her $50 and never contacted her again.
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Money comes and money goes. It's a means to an end. As long as she doesn't break you financially and you have a Brain, you can always make money.
If you don't want to spend, it's your perogative. But do you really want to not spend on a girl and travel with her so you can be $100,000 richer 10 years later? You make one good real estate deal or pick the right stock, you can make the money back in 8 seconds.
We have been brainwashed to believe 'money, money, money, save, save, save, rich, rich, rich.' Unless you are mega rich and running a massive business, you'll regret chasing money. That doesn't mean waste it or spend frivolously, but don't make it your reason for living.
But why do men have to pay? Why arent women expected to pay?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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Ya, I only seriously date women who make me money. I would take my girl to business outlings, and as my targets would be off-centered and drooling, I would close them. LOL.
On the subject of spending money: on men, on women; really, who gives a fvck? We have some real penny-pinchers here. If you can't afford a drink without thinking about the money spent, women should be your last priority.
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mrgoodstuff
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With the money she brought him, and it's a small percentage like 5-10%.
Obviously there's nothing wrong with spending money on something you like in a responsible way.
The better question is why do you guys, who have money issues and need to save, spend exorbitant amounts on women?
The answer to this question is also obvious,
1) A lot of people are bad with money
2) Desperation
englishman
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I do it because its expected in N America, like tipping a waitress is here, but isn't in other places.
If I don't go along with it then it makes life hard. So I most the time I do.
If I don't go along with it then it makes life hard. So I most the time I do.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Bible_Belt
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Lately my version of paying for dinner is that the girl goes shopping for food, brings it over to my house, we fvck, she cooks, we eat, we fvck again, and then I reimburse her for the groceries before she leaves.