Spot on, a woman worth your time will insist on 50/50, perhaps more.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
How do you justify spending your hard-earned cash on a woman?
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I'm not really talking down to dollar and cents. For example, I book the hotel/travel, she takes care of the activities and food. I've had woman complain about gas money when she comes to my place, even when I paid for cooking and activities. I gave her $50 and never contacted her again.
Married Buried
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Money comes and money goes. It's a means to an end. As long as she doesn't break you financially and you have a Brain, you can always make money.
If you don't want to spend, it's your perogative. But do you really want to not spend on a girl and travel with her so you can be $100,000 richer 10 years later? You make one good real estate deal or pick the right stock, you can make the money back in 8 seconds.
We have been brainwashed to believe 'money, money, money, save, save, save, rich, rich, rich.' Unless you are mega rich and running a massive business, you'll regret chasing money. That doesn't mean waste it or spend frivolously, but don't make it your reason for living.
But why do men have to pay? Why arent women expected to pay?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
guru1000
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Ya, I only seriously date women who make me money. I would take my girl to business outlings, and as my targets would be off-centered and drooling, I would close them. LOL.
On the subject of spending money: on men, on women; really, who gives a fvck? We have some real penny-pinchers here. If you can't afford a drink without thinking about the money spent, women should be your last priority.
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mrgoodstuff
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With the money she brought him, and it's a small percentage like 5-10%.
Obviously there's nothing wrong with spending money on something you like in a responsible way.
The better question is why do you guys, who have money issues and need to save, spend exorbitant amounts on women?
The answer to this question is also obvious,
1) A lot of people are bad with money
2) Desperation
englishman
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I do it because its expected in N America, like tipping a waitress is here, but isn't in other places.
If I don't go along with it then it makes life hard. So I most the time I do.
If I don't go along with it then it makes life hard. So I most the time I do.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Bible_Belt
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Lately my version of paying for dinner is that the girl goes shopping for food, brings it over to my house, we fvck, she cooks, we eat, we fvck again, and then I reimburse her for the groceries before she leaves.