"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How do you handle the 3rd date?

Eternal_water

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Any of you who have read many of my threads/posts know that I am very inexperienced with girls and dating.

How do you handle the 3rd date when the 3rd date is a meal at her place with her cooking? Are you supposed to go for the sex here or not?

Does making that move ruin your chances if you don't take it or does not doing so put you in the friendzone? (we have kissed on the first two dates).

I'm 24 and she's 25.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Hmm

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Relax go with the flow and no you dont have to have sex.

If you're on a 3rd date she obviously likes you....just keep being yourself and she wont dump you, even if you dont have sex.
 

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A date isnt something you "handle", its not a homeless person stopping you on the street for money.

Enjoy your time with her, let your mind go away for awhile and all the ideas of should i do this should i do that. See her, communicate with her, really connect with what she is saying and doing instead of analyzing it as a means to an end. The rest will flow naturally.
 

Eternal_water

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Ok so you don't think she will be expecting/wanting me to make the move?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Hmm said:
Relax go with the flow and no you dont have to have sex.

If you're on a 3rd date she obviously likes you....just keep being yourself and she wont dump you, even if you dont have sex.
at least one optimistic dude who doesnt obssess himself with mind games, dating stragetiges...
oh btw, u MUST fvck her, it's a third date. if not, she will flake you because you didnt escalate. that's what dating guru been telling me

my "uber lame/afc opinion" is also just to go with the flow and do whatever you want and feel comfortable.
 

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Hey OP did you end up losing your v-card yet? I remember a few months ago you stated that you were still a virgin
 

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Eternal_water said:
Any of you who have read many of my threads/posts know that I am very inexperienced with girls and dating.

How do you handle the 3rd date when the 3rd date is a meal at her place with her cooking? Are you supposed to go for the sex here or not?

Does making that move ruin your chances if you don't take it or does not doing so put you in the friendzone? (we have kissed on the first two dates).

I'm 24 and she's 25.
On every date regardless of first date or what number, you always go for sex assuiming you are attracted to her...always put your desires first .
 

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Nah man. Look at it like this: you have a realistic chance at having sex on that date. Now you don't have to PLAN to have sex, and on how you are going to initiate it, and make strategies...

... man just go with the flow. Any way you'd want some kind of intimacy on a date where she cooks for you. The least thing would be to thank her with a kiss. Watch a movie on her couch afterwards?

Have you ever had sex before? Then you'll know that feeling when the date is going right, you're at her place, at some point you're both just feeling it. Your timing doesn't matter. You can just grab her.

If for some reason it doesn't happen: have a fun, relaxed and pleasant evening anyway. But even without sex, keep it sexual. Eye contact etc. You can still leave her with butterflies in her stomach.

If you're a virgin then you're probably desperate to have sex anyway. In that case: good luck.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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