"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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how do you handle other guys shutting u out the convo?

gimmeyofonenumba

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very rarely this happens to me. I'll be talking with a group of like 3-4 people,and someone will come along, and actually step right in the circle of conversation, right in front of me, talks louder,takes away attention. Just completely shuts you out from the environment, usually they start talking about something you are not involved in at all. How do i stop/counter this?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I-am-someone

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Plenty of options...
Just a few that come to my mind...

  • Get on his level. Speak at the same tone of voice and start talking directly to him, making your conversation the center of the group. Then include others into the conversation as well, and make some jokes about how he entered the conversation if you'd like.
  • If the people around you are your friends, simply look at the guy like "What the hell are you doing, butting into our conversation like this??".. Depending on your status within the group, the others will see you looking at him like that, and follow your lead.
  • Split the group into two, engage another part of the group into interesting conversation on something else.

And many more ways of dealing with it can be thought of. Basically, you can't stop it, but you can redirect the flows of conversation in your own interest.
 

Fash

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Ok... here is another way of looking at it.

I'm usually the guy that butts into conversations, speaks louder, changes the subjects, AMOGs the males and extracts the chick (my target).

The only thing that can/will stop me in my tracks and shut me up is if the person I just spoke over, stops, looks at me as in "who the hell are you?" and then says "sorry, we were in the middle of a coversation here"...

Keep it polite, straight and to the point.

Or you could just be the loud one! ;-)
 

Rock_Solid

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I like I-am-someone's third bullet, i've never tried that before but now i want to. It's actually a simple idea, just extract your target while the AMOG talks to the group, brilliant! thanks:up:
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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