"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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how do you guys plan on where to meet on your date?

chance

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i find it a little awkward when i get to this part. like just before when i was on the phone.. i mean the woman is waiting on me to sort the date out and where to meet. problem is i dont get out that much and i dont know many places lol. so i just said lets meet in the city, have a walk and get to know each other etc and i mean shes diggin me real bad cause she kept laughing all the time at my jokes etc. by the way, the city is abour an hour train ride for me. she lives closer up that way though and we both don't drive so i dunno when to plant moves.

how do you guys deal with this part? also, how should i play this out.. we are meeting at lunch time. how long do i hang out with her? i suppose i wont be able to go for a kiss in public at the end of the date right? would really like some advice on the kiss and where to meet situation.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Myrrdin

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Get out more and compile a list of the places you're fond of. Be it Coffee Shop, Tea House, Bar, Club, Fancy Restaurant, Pool Hall, Bowling Alley, Riding Course, Golf Course, Pool etc. You need to know your environment.

And when opportunity rises pick the venue accordingly.

Good luck!
 

Maximus Rex

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Myrrdin said:
Get out more and compile a list of the places you're fond of. Be it Coffee Shop, Tea House, Bar, Club, Fancy Restaurant, Pool Hall, Bowling Alley, Riding Course, Golf Course, Pool etc. You need to know your environment.

And when opportunity rises pick the venue accordingly.

Good luck!
Agreed. When you're out be cognizant of bounce locations. Your mindset needs to be, "if I were to meet a chick right now, here would I take her to build comfort." Write these places down. If possible try them out.
 
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