"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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How do you go about trying to date a "baby mama"

Jayness

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Any advice? The girl I like has an 8 month old baby. This is tough for me bcause I know the baby is her main priority. What to do?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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AMDG

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Jayness said:
Any advice? The girl I like has an 8 month old baby. This is tough for me bcause I know the baby is her main priority. What to do?
Slowly walking away is the best option - you risk opening a whole can of worms otherwise.
 

rocksoff

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How do you go about trying to date a "baby mama" ?

Very simple man, You just dont do it
 

katatonia

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Single mothers are to be used for sex only.

...unless raising another man's child is your thing.
 

HeyPachuco!

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Somebody once said on the Mature Forum - on a similiar subject, that it wasn't reproductive to his future. Dealing with a woman who has already been knocked up by somebody else isn't progressive, he gave a Lion/ Pride of Lions analogy and said the King Lion would kill the cubs of his last rival in order to preserve for himself with the Lioness. Which means - dont make anything into long-term basis unless it is reproductive to your future.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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r0cky

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HeyPachuco! said:
Somebody once said on the Mature Forum - on a similiar subject, that it wasn't reproductive to his future. Dealing with a woman who has already been knocked up by somebody else isn't progressive, he gave a Lion/ Pride of Lions analogy and said the King Lion would kill the cubs of his last rival in order to preserve for himself with the Lioness. Which means - dont make anything into long-term basis unless it is reproductive to your future.
Reproductive or productive?
 

jdollarthegreat

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katatonia said:
Single mothers are to be used for sex only.

...unless raising another man's child is your thing.

I don't think its all about sex all the time but I have to agree with this one. Don't get involved with it, its not a good look know what i'm sayin
 

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I agree. If you get into a full-scale relationship with her, you WILL eventually become the kid's new daddy. That's more baggage than an airport conveyor belt matey. Just F her and get away - walk don't run
 

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I've dated my fair share of single mothers. Here are some red flags...

if she is constantly talking about her 'baby daddy'. Red flag.

if she is openly admits to needing a father for her child. Red flag.

if she is trying to get you meet her child and spend time with the child right off the bat. Flag on the play.

if she says these words "me and my child are a package deal". Flag.

if she's always griping about how her 'baby daddy' doesn't take care of his child. Flag.

if she's always broke. Or asks you for money, or ask you to buy things for her kid. Flag.

if she ever ask you to babysit. Nuclear Red Flag. :nono: Eject immediately and don't look back.

Some other tips....

1. You are her vacation from the messed up life she's in. Keep it that way. You don't date vacations, and you don't go on them every day...you just enjoy them when you can.

2. You play the role of the swuave player with a heart of gold, but you don't get sucked into her life. The point of 1. is to take her out of her life, let her enjoy life like it was before she got knocked up.

3. You do not spend time with her child. I repeat, you do not spend time with her child. You do not grow attached, you do not think of 'being a family'. You especially don't do this inside of the first year or two of knowing her.

4. You will have other girls. She expects you to have other girls. She knows her market value is low, and if she's the only girl on your radar then your market value is lower than hers, instant power shift.

5. You will not become needy or clingy. Her children will always be ahead of you so becoming needy or clingy will be even worse than with a childless woman. It's the quickest way to ruin.

6. You will not see her on a regular basis. i.e. several times a week. You will put her in the rotation of once, maybe twice a week.

7. You will not take her out on expensive dates. You may take her to the movies or some applebees type place every now and then, but there should be at least a 3-1 or 4-1 ratio. For every 3 times she just comes over and "watches a movie" you MIGHT take her out on a real date.

These have been some of my lessons I have learned from experience. take what you find useful, discard the rest. Good luck.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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2crudedudes

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Man, I wish I had found this website 5 years ago. This thread just about explains everything that I did wrong for 5 years.

Really dude, you don't want to date her. You really should just bone her as much as you can/want, but never treat her like a girlfriend.

Women carry enough baggage in their lives. Single mothers carry this x10.
 

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Dude dont do it.Single mothers are always busy and never have time for a man believe me when I say this.
 

tebow1120

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I wish I would have found this website at birth.I would have never been in some of the situations I have been in.I dated this Single mother she almost never had time for me unless she needed something,there never avaliable during the day,the only you wil get to talk to her is at night when she is about to go to sleep.Trust me its not worth it.
 

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Jayness said:
Any advice? The girl I like has an 8 month old baby. This is tough for me bcause I know the baby is her main priority. What to do?
Oh this is simple, you DONT. It's not worth it man. Sex is cool but a real relationship with her and her kids will take away more than you expect to earn. Even if she is a good person, she messed up and is now at a disadvantage. Trust when I say she will eventually want you to step up to the plate if you wish to continue seeing her. It's called bait and switch.

Move along son and find a non single mother.
 

CarlitosWay

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I actually lost my virginity to a baby mama LOL....my advice don't do it. unless you're prepared to help raise that kid You might end up getting calls at odd hours with baby mma crying saying "Why don't you want to be with me! Is it cause of my kid!? I ****in' love my baby, What did i do tell me!" WHY?>!!?!" waaa waaaa :(
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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rocksoff

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Also, imagine throwing a hot dog into a water cooler.....do you really want to feel that....GO get some fresh, tight pvssy man dont waste your time on this
 

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*says a prayer of thanks for not being a single mom*
 

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The only thing i could add here is you also really, really run the risk of baby daddy reigniting the flame with your chick and then you get the "we have to talk" chat since most single moms are wishing baby daddy never left

i've seen it a hundred times and personally got LJBF'd by this girl who's jealous ass baby daddy walkd back into the picture when he noticed i was hanging out with his ex
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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