"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How do you get to kiss close?

Themanthatcan

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Just a little poll here, but how do you personally initiate a kiss close? Any lines, techniques? -Or do you just feel it out? Simple question


Thanks for the input.


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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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ryannath

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Lean in and pucker your lips. Try it sometime. It really works. I swear.
 

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tell her she has something on her lips. :)
 

Themanthatcan

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Ha.Nice Addman. After Hugging her I usually tease her saying she doesn't know how to give a proper hug. Then I go "If your this bad at hugging, you must REALLY suck at kissing.She denies it. I tell her to prove it. Rest is history.


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Eventually you'll get to the point when you "know" you can kiss her.

Until then my favorite test was something simple I made up.

"What would you do if I kissed you?"

You can't say this out of the blue, there had to be some tension going on. And you gotta deliver it right. Look into her eyes, and say it confidently like you don't give a **** what her answer is.

If she freaks out, runs away, and generally gives you a bad answer. Then go "I was just kidding"

If she says yes, or I don't know, then just kiss her.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Themanthatcan

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Ha. Good, master. MD3- I know. It shouldn't be a big deal, but somehow I always find a way to make it one.I guess using a line is just kinda like a reassurance or something. Who knows?
 

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Some of those ideas seem try hard. "You have something on you're lip"?

hahaha

Anyway, the best way and to go for kiss is do "triangualr gazing".

Slow down your speaking, triangular gaze, and get closer. This is so solid and powerful. If you don't believe me try it on a close friend. (male and non gay) Don't get closer and slow down speaking, but triangular gaze and he will notice the gayness from doing it.
 

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Snow Plowman said:
Slow down your speaking, triangular gaze, and get closer. This is so solid and powerful. If you don't believe me try it on a close friend. (male and non gay)
:nervous:

its a good technique, but I dont recommend doing it on a guy friend
 
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On past successful kiss closes, just say "kiss" near the end of the date. Otherwise, it's some subconcious type of intereaction, if she's receptive to receiving a kiss, then naturally the subconcious minds will interact and a kiss will result if you are motivated to do it, and she's open to entertaining it. If there is a 'wall' around her, (i.e. friendzone or the date went badly, etc...), then you'll find that it just doesn't happen, or you cant connect with her that way.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Luke Skywalker said:
On past successful kiss closes, just say "kiss" near the end of the date. Otherwise, it's some subconcious type of intereaction, if she's receptive to receiving a kiss, then naturally the subconcious minds will interact and a kiss will result if you are motivated to do it, and she's open to entertaining it. If there is a 'wall' around her, (i.e. friendzone or the date went badly, etc...), then you'll find that it just doesn't happen, or you cant connect with her that way.
ok VIRGIN, stop with the advice bro
 

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I think this is why so many people here have problems when you're thinking like, "how do you get to kiss close?" What an awful question.

Get to? No confidence. And how to do it? Here's your big answer (surprise!):

................

Kiss her.
 
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