drmeathead said:um dont get drunk and sarcastically bet your friend 50 bucks to call her and ask her why she is crazy and why she treated you so bad.....that is NOT how u get rid of them
HAHA... good one. I get it!
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
drmeathead said:um dont get drunk and sarcastically bet your friend 50 bucks to call her and ask her why she is crazy and why she treated you so bad.....that is NOT how u get rid of them
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Wow. Just stumbled into this thread. Holy crap it gave me goosebumps. I've had more than a few BPD women in my life including my most recent ex. aliasguy hit it on the head. That's why you love to mess around with these BPD women but never marry one.aliasguy said:You're right. The crazies f*ck SO well.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Yeah I showed her. There's a lot of good info in this thread she can learn from.Bible_Belt said:I also sent the girl in question a link to this thread so she can read the valuable few first posts.
wtf? Tell me you are joking about that.
Do I just let myself accept the fact she is going to fvck other guys?
Yes. Everything went wrong because you showed jealousy. My bpd girl usually has a flock of guys hitting on her. I have another gf and could care less.
THis was my experience also from wasting 2006 on a BPD woman.drmeathead said:GET AWAY...or be miserable and heartbroken. it is your call.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
YEs that is true ,BUT you need to be willing to accept the inevitable brain damage that she will cause you..Bible_Belt said:but the sex....the sex is so good...my bpd girl is asleep in my bed right now.
Welcome to this board - your experience with a disturbed woman is something that a lot of us share here.gadd1966 said:I am new to this site so I Wish to respond. When you were in relationship with someone with BPD traits did you yourself ever feel like you were being pulled in so many directions, feeling as if you were about to go crazy. Did it ever feel that no matter what you did it was never enough?? or that one minute they wanted to be with you and the next they no longer did????? that their mood swings could go from 0-100 in a second flat??? I ask becasue this was my experience. All I can say is that I never felt so crazy, so confussed and bewildered in all my life. All of my friends thought she was odd and strange but I never paid attention- I thought she was exciting and interesting, in the beginning. Toward the end the psuh pull, go away closer routine jsut about drove me insane!! She has had tremendous amount of sexual abuse in the past, starting at age 2 all the way through teen age years. My relationship with her was beyond reason at times- I'm still recovering.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
gadd1966 said:Alot of it rings a bell- much in the beginning didn't ring true until the end. She always said she was the one to end relationships- no tte other way around. Overall I think I offered more commitment than need be- she for the most part determined how fast things would, where they would go, how fast it would- manily it was all on her terms. She had prior hx of seeling drugs for sex and sex for drugs. Sh e is by far more street smart than I am. SHe grew up in the city where as I didn't. She has far more life experience than I do- plus she has been "out there" on the wild side/ dark side than I would ever care to go myself. But I don't to paint her as all bad- she's not. and certainly i have my own issues as well that proably didn't help matters- and everyone said STAY AWAY She SEEMs ODD- she is a professional and makes a good living- its her personal realionships with men that seem to have been chaotic. she has had alot of trauma in her life. She can move so quick to being a vulnerable little girl to confident adult- its just strange. perhaps I have been too NICE in all this- most others would say I'm too nice- so I learned the hard way
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.