How come we don't have BIG muscular chad looking mass shooters?

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

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[Bokanovsky]

Irrelevant. Incels can’t shoot up schools if they don’t have access to these weapons. Without the gun they aren’t even getting past a security guard. These aren’t Chads.

If you ban "assault weapons", incels will move on to other types of guns. A pump action shotgun can do a lot of damage and is not difficult to use. If you ban all guns period, incels will find other ways to kill people. Here in Canada, we had an incel who drove a rented van down a pedestrian sidewalk and killed 11 people.

Guns have been prevalent in society for centuries but mass shootings are a relatively recent phenomenon. Why? Because there were no incels in the old days. The only way to solve the "incel mass murderer" problem is to address the social conditions that turn young men into incels in the first place. But strangely, no one seems to be interested in doing that. And that's because acknowledging that the social engineering experiments of the past 50+ years have been an abject failure and have led to tragic results is politically more difficult than blaming inanimate objects.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Perhaps, but it's the truth. Most efficient is prob. a rocket or cyanide if you want to split hairs. Doubtful most people could get their hands on either so easily.

Ammonium nitrate fertilizer and diesel fuel is even easier, but thankfully American education is dumbed down enough that no one understands chemistry.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

If you ban "assault weapons", incels will move on to other types of guns. A pump action shotgun can do a lot of damage and it's not difficult to use. If you ban all guns period, inches will find other ways to kill people. Here in Canada, we had an incel who drove a rented van down a pedestrian sidewalk and killed 11 people.

Guns have been prevalent in society for centuries but mass shootings are a relatively recent phenomenon. Why? Because there were no incels in the old days. The only way to solve the "incel mass murderer" problem is to address the social conditions that turn young men into incels in the first place. But strangely, no one seems to be interested in doing that. And that's because acknowledging that the social engineering experiment of the past 50+ years have been an abject failure and have led to tragic results is politically more difficult than blaming inanimate objects.

Its called preventive measures. An Incel with an AR-15 has been the most destructive out of any person due to the convenience of getting one and the firepower/range advantage it provides.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Ammonium nitrate fertilizer and diesel fuel is even easier, but thankfully American education is dumbed down enough that no one understands chemistry.

or I can just go buy an Ar-15

 

[EyeBRollin]

If you ban "assault weapons", incels will move on to other types of guns. A pump action shotgun can do a lot of damage and it's not difficult to use.

It is less efficient at killing than an AR-15. That means less people die at any given event.

If you ban all guns period, inches will find other ways to kill people.

Correct. Less efficient ways to kill.

Here in Canada, we had an incel who drove a rented van down a pedestrian sidewalk and killed 11 people.

Ok? Snowplow example above.

Guns have been prevalent in society for centuries but mass shootings are a relatively recent phenomenon. Why? Because there were no incels in the old days.

Wrong. Guns now are more efficient at killing and civilians have greater access to them.

The only way to solve the "incel mass murderer" problem is to address the social conditions that turn young men into incels in the first place. But strangely, no one seems to be interested in doing that. And that's because acknowledging that the social engineering experiment of the past 50+ years have been an abject failure and have led to tragic results is politically more difficult than blaming inanimate objects.

Not the only way. Mental health and gun restrictions are not mutually exclusive. Both can be applied concurrently.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Its called preventive measures. An Incel with an AR-15 has been the most destructive out of any person due to the convenience of getting one and the firepower/range advantage it provides.

No offence but this is a stupid argument. If it turns out that, statistically speaking, a Honda Civic is the most popular choice with bank robbers for a getaway car, do you think that bank robberies will decrease if that particular automobile is banned?

 

[Billtx49]

If you ban "assault weapons", incels will move on to other types of guns. A pump action shotgun can do a lot of damage and it's not difficult to use. If you ban all guns period, inches will find other ways to kill people. Here in Canada, we had an incel who drove a rented van down a pedestrian sidewalk and killed 11 people.

Guns have been prevalent in society for centuries but mass shootings are a relatively recent phenomenon. Why? Because there were no incels in the old days. The only way to solve the "incel mass murderer" problem is to address the social conditions that turn young men into incels in the first place. But strangely, no one seems to be interested in doing that. And that's because acknowledging that the social engineering experiment of the past 50+ years have been an abject failure and have led to tragic results is politically more difficult than blaming inanimate objects.

Exactly. This thread proves why events like this will continue. Instead of a debate over the 393 million privately owned firearms in the US, these events should inspire a discussion about improving mental health in our society. The primary driver of these types of killing events.

 

[Gamisch]

Are you afraid of being hit by a car or struck by lightning every time you leave the house? The chances of you being killed in a mass shooting are actually lower. Better lock yourself up in that basement. Wouldn't want to risk getting attacked by a rabid squirrel should you venture outside

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The moment it become a daily routine where people plow their truck into crowds, then yeah. Thats the moment you need to make adjustments. A quick google check learns this happens occasionally, let's say every 6 months on average. Compare that with mass shootings.

Its your fellow American getting slayed on a daily , but I as a distance observer seem to feel more for them than you guys over here do.

Also wanna add , it seems easier to get a gun in the US of A than a truck.

It's all ****s and giggles untill it the gun violence literally hits home.

It's amazing you guys are blind for this. In Europe you simply don't have to worry some crazy maniac has a gun. There are guns, but it's a severe crime, a extremely hot potato nobody wants to hold on to it too long.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

No offence but this is a stupid argument. If it turns out that, statistically speaking, a Honda Civic is the most popular choice with bank robbers for a getaway car, do you think that bank robberies will decrease if that particular automobile is banned?

bank robberies and mass shootings are two different things

Exactly. This thread proves why events like this will continue. Instead of a debate over the 393 million privately owned firearms in the US, these events should inspire a discussion about improving mental health in our society. The primary driver of these type of killing events.

Then what’s this plan because I haven’t heard anything yet other than just use a grenade lol

 

[EyeBRollin]

No offence but this is a stupid argument. If it turns out that, statistically speaking, a Honda Civic is the most popular choice with bank robbers for a getaway car, do you think that bank robberies will decrease if that particular automobile is banned?

This is an even dumber argument. And statistically speaking, insuring a Honda Civic is more expensive than other comparable compact cars.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Exactly. This thread proves why events like this will continue. Instead of a debate over the 393 million privately owned firearms in the US, these events should inspire a discussion about improving mental health in our society. The primary driver of these types of killing events.

That’s a false choice and a deflection. Gun restrictions and mental health Issues are not mutually exclusive.

Fact is : a mentally ill incel with an AR-15 will kill a lot more people than mentally ill incel without a firearm altogether.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

It's amazing you guys are blind for this. In Europe you simply don't have to worry some crazy maniac has a gun. There are guns, but it's a severe crime, a extremely hot potato nobody wants to hold on to it too long.

Our main concern in America is the government.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The simple answer is, if everyone is carrying, then these shooters wouldn't be able to get the counts that they do. Almost 400 million weapons are not going to disappear, and due to philosophical reasons, the states would break up before the actions were taken to somehow get those already existing weapons. Like Bokonovsky said, since they're not going to address the social conditions creating incels, nothing is going to change.

False.

Bruh, the armed security on site isn’t doing shvt in these school shootings. Some of the cops are scared to go in and face the shooter. They have families that they want to go home to. Few humans are brave and skilled enough to apprehend a nut job incel that is mowing down school children with an AR-15.

 

[Bokanovsky]

It's amazing you guys are blind for this. In Europe you simply don't have to worry some crazy maniac has a gun. There are guns, but it's a severe crime, a extremely hot potato nobody wants to hold on to it too long.

Give me a break. In Europe, you have no-go zones where even cops are afraid to venture. I would feel much safer at an NRA convention surrounded by people who armed to the teeth compared to walking the streets of certain parts of Marseilles, Malmo, Birmingham, etc.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

The simple answer is, if everyone is carrying, then these shooters wouldn't be able to get the counts that they do. Almost 400 million weapons are not going to disappear, and due to philosophical reasons, the states would break up before the actions were taken to somehow get those already existing weapons. Like Bokonovsky said, since they're not going to address the social conditions creating incels, nothing is going to change.

No one is advocating banning guns and to negate an AR-15 than everyone has to be walking around with Ar-15s. It makes no sense, y’all claim this country has a mental illness issue but want everyone walking around with guns lol.

 

[Bokanovsky]

bank robberies and mass shootings are two different things

The point that you are missing is that you can't just ban one type of gun or car and hope that crime will go down. You will have to ban all guns (and somehow confiscate the hundreds of millions that are already in circulation). It ain't gonna happen.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Give me a break. In Europe, you have no-go zones where even cops are afraid to venture. I would feel much safer at an NRA convention surrounded by people who armed to the teeth compared to walking the streets of certain parts of Marseilles, Malmo, Birmingham, etc.

So should everywhere be equivalent to an NRA convention?

 

[EyeBRollin]

I'm talking all civilians. Police, and security don't have an emotional investment. If you were walking in a public place with your child, wouldn't you whip out your firearm to stop a maniac?

No! I would get as far away from the place as I can. I’m only drawing if I’m pinned and have no other choice.

 

[Bokanovsky]

So should everywhere be equivalent to an NRA convention?

As far as I'm aware, there has never been a mass shooting at an NRA convention. So perhaps you are on to something.