"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Hot or Not?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
MindOverMatter
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1. The main demographic that will be rating your picture - which for hotornot seems to be 14-25 year old middle class white suburban girls from the US.
2. The popular trend at the time - this time its either hiphop or A&F etc.
3. Your picture - look good.
To get a 9.9 just stay fit and look like the current trend or the all-american boy.
Dover
Don Juan
I havent checked this in ages.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
h2o
Banned
seriously...an hour a day? :crackup:
i got an 8.5 for my face only... after about 500 votes...i don't check it anymore though...
some girls just have high votes because they're wearing something skimpy...because their faces sometimes looks crap, but because they're showing cleavage, they're 7s or 8s...imo, that's bull
eh, who cares anyway though...i hate how you have to pay to send emails to girls who are your double-matches
If you're hispanic, asian, or middle-eastern, look out. No matter how good you look, you will get rated lower than the all-american. This doesn't mean you're less attractive, just that people are biased.
You're not based SOLELY on your looks but also on the quality of the photo. Make sure it's vibrant and crisp and that people can see your face.
Fitness is priority one. Fat people never score well on hotornot, and chubby people get points deducted.
Priority two is a tie between skin and hair. One pimple on your chin can ruin your rating. Try to take a picture that shows you at your best in this regard. Have a stylish haircut. It helps a LOT.
Shezzler, the pic is blurry, the pose is a bit weird, and your short haircut highlights your large forehead. Not trying to be an *******, just honest. I have a big forehead too. You should consider sweeping some hair along the sides of your head to minimize the boldness of your forehead. I know this because I have a big forehead too.
With a lot of tweaks, I brought myself from a 6.5 to a 9.6.
This mainly involved my hairstyle, skin, style, and picture quality... so yeah.
http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=OZBSEYH&key=CDJ
http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=BYSSBUK&key=HJY
Those are my new pics. 9.8 and 9
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/Stinger911/WFDevinKelly42.jpg
There's the old AFC me of 3 years ago. I didn't get this one rated but I'm sure it would be a lot lower, and I was just a mess internally back then.
Cheers,
-Duke
Vandermast
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
h2o
Banned
i hope you don't want to take him for a test driveOriginally posted by Vandermast
Why do I get the idea, Shezzler, that you are trying to sell me a used car
:crackup:
edit...i don't get what you meant by that?
My Hot Or Not picOriginally posted by The_Shezzler
Its a different picture every time!!
Sarge on...
soz about that
Laterz...
Yeah I've noticed that too. Take an indian or hispanic girl and put them up against a girl of equal(ok, so this is hard to measure) beauty that looks american, and the white girl will always win.
I've gone through HoN and seen smoking smoking hot indian and black girls who get rated 7's, then I see a toothpick white girl who looks like an inbred hick from virginia, but because she's white and skinny, she gets a 9.
HoN is not a good measuring stick.
Everyone agrees on what is ugly, but few agree on beauty.
That is why that smokin hot latina or indian chick will never get the 9.9: most USAers don't find that look attractive, be it racism, personal preference, ignorance, trendiness etc. However, some pudgy bottle blonde with a good cleavage shot will get 10s down the board.
On the other side of the coin, ugly people of ALL races and colors get 2s and 1s. Fat is fat, no matter who your parents are.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.