"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

hook-up question...

user99321

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 12, 2012
Messages
17
Reaction score
0
So I am currently in college and it seems like girls here "hook up" (make out, give head) with a different guy every week. Like... I don't want someone else's sloppy seconds. How do you guys possibly respect girls who randomly hook up? How can you date a girl who gives head to guys who don't even know her name? Are all attractive college girls like this now? I just want to know your thoughts on this. Thanks.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

lockout

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 14, 2012
Messages
45
Reaction score
1
Location
Northwest
as long as you get your share it's cool.. hoes are hoes you can always try different crowds though.
 

user99321

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 12, 2012
Messages
17
Reaction score
0
I guess I'm just asking if you guys might have a different perspective on the situation that I could maybe use.

I just don't want to kiss a pair of lips that have seen many ****s haha
 

Purple

New Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Messages
8
Reaction score
1
You get past the skewed idea that a woman who has and enjoys sex is dirty in some way. Eventually you come to terms with the idea that most women you meet past 16 have had miles of **** laid into them 4-8 inches at a time. You come to realize that what you are doing is subconsciously chastising women for doing very natural things, in the same way that society chastises you for jerking off to some weird **** sometimes.

Look up Madonna/***** complex and get over it. Your mom kissed you on the same night she sucked your dads ****.
 

user99321

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 12, 2012
Messages
17
Reaction score
0
I know man and I'm okay with a girl doing stuff with like a former boyfriend or something. It just seems like every single girl here has hooked up with a hundred guys in her lifetime.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

f283000

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 28, 2007
Messages
2,153
Reaction score
197
Like... I don't want someone else's sloppy seconds.
Then be more selective with the girls you deal with. If you're in college you should know a hoe when you see one by now unless you're a total newbie.
How do you guys possibly respect girls who randomly hook up?
Who says we do? :D

A hookup to me is just going along with the temptation that is being presented to me at that moment. Doesn't mean I will take her home to mom or actually respect her, because respect is earned and you don't earn respect with a hookup where you might never see her again. In fact the lack of respect is probably mutual both parties are just horny and happened to hookup. Respect has nothing to do with a hook up.
How can you date a girl who gives head to guys who don't even know her name? Are all attractive college girls like this now? I just want to know your thoughts on this. Thanks.
There's a difference between a hookup and a date.

From reading your post it seems that you would prefer a more traditional type of girl instead of your average college ho. If so look for those type of women instead.
 

Krazy

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 22, 2012
Messages
13
Reaction score
0
Be careful not to use "every single girl here has hooked up with a hundred guys" as an excuse for not approaching. Keep approaching, Keep practicing.
Good luck!
 

dutchmaster

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Sep 10, 2011
Messages
417
Reaction score
61
Location
Tampa
If you had more hook ups than them you wouldn't be worried
 

backbreaker

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 24, 2002
Messages
11,546
Reaction score
572
Location
monrovia, CA
by the time i had met my wife i had hooked up with well over 30 women probalby closer to 45 or 50, don't really keep count.. hell I hooked up with another 2 AFTER i met her. it works both ways. sex is just sex. sex has nothing to do with morality. you are no one's sloppy seconds no girl is your sloppy seconds.

you can either get it now or you can get it later. bi "it" i mean the girl going through her party sleep with guys mode. you can either let the girl get it of her system when she is in college or you can find one that has delionshed herself into thinking she is not like the other girls and try to put a ring on her finger only for her to go through her "I shouldn't havve gotten married so young" stage 7 years later when you have 2 kids.


they are not "*****s" they are nonmral college girls away from home the first time. they are experimenting with their sexuality the same thing you should be doing. I female friend of mine,, absolute knockout. actually the girl that bought me here. in college she went out and partied every weekend and slept with a lot of guys ,went and partied and ****. she's 28 and has been married for 3 years and wont' consider cheating on her husband.
 

Young Juan

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 4, 2001
Messages
418
Reaction score
6
Age
42
Location
Ahwatukee, AZ
Call it practice. If you want all the chicks that teeth your **** and just lay there when you fvck em all quit, be my guest. Personally? I want a chick that knows how to make me nut hard and well, wet head, pops that pvssy on my ****, and sucks my **** in the mornin, because she knows what guys like from experience. She may suck other ****s, but she also uses listerine and has a soniccare toothbrush, uses protection, and gets checked regularly. Sorry, but I like sluts on the weekend
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

user99321

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 12, 2012
Messages
17
Reaction score
0
hmmm... I mean... I've only kissed (and everything else) one girl (and she had never been with anyone before me). I really really liked how we had never been with anyone else. I just don't want a complete slut. It's hard for me to imagine that a girl who sleeps around has a lot of respect for herself.

Do you think it's possible for a girl not to be in party mode in college then later not regret it later in life?
 

Willis

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 3, 2007
Messages
153
Reaction score
0
"Be careful not to use "every single girl here has hooked up with a hundred guys" as an excuse for not approaching. Keep approaching, Keep practicing.
thats the exact reason i dont approach..BECAUSE SHE HAS HOOKED UP WITH HUNDREDS OF GUYS..
why would i want to keep a loose woman around..i dont know why but when i see a hot girl im thinking she is hot but she probaly had her fair share of d!ck..and for some reason completely turned off by that..i know she is only doing natural things but maybe my ego cant handle the fact that they have a sexual past..and they have enjoyed sex even if it was not with me...
 
Top