"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Hide or not hide that you are picking her up?

Which strategy do you use?

  • Always direct approach.

    Votes: 1 6.7%

  • Always indirect approach.

    Votes: 1 6.7%

  • Half & half.

    Votes: 8 53.3%

  • Most of them direct, a little indirect.

    Votes: 2 13.3%

  • Most of them indirect, a little direct.

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • Total voters
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Starriol

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I mean... there are several schools of thought with this.

Some guys say "try to make it look like you are just being a friendly chatty stranger".

Other says "be a man, do it directly and don't pretend you are interested in her purse color".

I mean... what are the pros and cons you think?

IMO, being indirect has the advantadge of defusing a lot of ***** shields because a girl doesn't get all defensive.

By the time she realizes you are picking her up, she's already into you (or she should be if you did your game allright).

On the other hand, I think it shows lots of balls to just go for it and say straight, this is the most minimalistic approach, of course "hey girl, I'm busy right now, but would love to chat with you, what's your #??".

I had success with both approaches. I don't think one is better, they are just different, some are better sometimes, other, some other times.

What is YOUR opinion?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dark Haired Alpha

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Come on, she is going to know what you're doing anyways. By hiding it, you will just loose her respect.
 
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Bonhomme

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Unask the question.

It's not about directness or indirectness, but about finesse. You could be making out within minutes of meeting or a subtle as can be.

Some of the best pickups are when you both know what's going on, but it's entirely unspoken. Whatever the flow of things dictates ~
 
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Brian20o2

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The best thing is to be direct but inderect, meaning you show your intensions in your actions but you dont go up and say "hey wanna Fu**" all while being playfull and funloving.
 
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reyalp

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it's definitely a game of subtleties.

i won't come right out and state my intentions....they know what they are.

however, if a woman asks me why i want to see her/why i'm hanging out with her, i usually tell her i have nothing but the worst intentions. they think i'm joking, too :D
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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How to tell definitively whether a woman is married or avalable.....




























Can her husband see you sarging his wife? :p
 
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