"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
hey losers. speak up!
- Thread starter xomel
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
joecollapoppa
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frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
going to start my assualt tonight!
wish me luck.
wait I dont need luck!
GuitarOnFire7
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Ever onward
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I've been thinking about this, let's get a bunch of guys together who just can't approach women and make a pact, American Pie style.
The Pact will be to pick out a girl (target) during the week and ask her for her number by a certain day. Like Wednesday or something. Then we all report in with what happened.
So in my case with my girl at the video store I would use the JWHITE method.
me: can I ask u a quick question?
her: sure
me: are u single?
she will either say yes or no and depending on her response I tell her that I have to get going and ask for her number. It's a simple straight-to-the-point method that works.
So what do you guys say, is this a good idea? Shall we make a pact?
rgeere
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I love saturday nights ...
CapiCrimini
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Some hot girls there. Listened to some music saw some tight ass stone knifes and Indian stuff. Listened to some music and skits. Watched the lake, picked up a fee numbers, watched pert of the Indian film festival. headed home.
That was my day... oh yeah... riding around in the golf carts being a jack ass and having fun.
... I really wasn't supposed to do that. now I'm home... reading my college text book on Marketing from NorthWestern, my leg muscle is twitching and It's bothering me... I don't know why... I mean it's my upper calf one... I never use it... feels wierd... also typing this getting ready to go to sleep.
joecollapoppa
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
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Soma
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"me: can I ask u a quick question?
her: sure
me: are u single?"
If you're gonna say that, do NOT say "can I ask you a quick question?" You'll send a weird vibe and unless the girl is extremely attracted to you she'll blow you off.
You're trying to come in confident and direct as hell with the "are you single" line but you preface it with wishy washy opener. Doesn't flow at all.
If you really want to say it cut the first part out.
U- Hello.
Her- Hi.
U- Are you single?
Before I go...
If you've ever chatted this girl at all or held eye contact with her...or in any way whatsoever shown interest in her do not say the line above. Again, it won't flow. You're trying to be direct and confident but it's taken you HOW LONG to actually talk to this girl?! Your words will show confidence but your lack of action will show your true insecurity. Blow off. If this is the case, then just chat her up like a normal person. Tell her a short little story about something funny that's happened to you recently. Keep it short and sweet. If it goes well, as you're about to leave say, "Hey, we should hang out sometime."
There are ton of more in-depth things but since you're just starting out this would be your best bet.
-Soma
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It works for JWhite and he stole it from David D. I think it's worth a shot.
The whole point of the thing is to grab my balls and do the approach, not whether I get rejected or not.
I think it is better to keep it as simple as possible and not over complicate things because I will be nervous enough as is.
Thanks for the advice anyways.
Soma
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Alright man. Do it your way.
hahah
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.