"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hey Guys Will Ya Help Me?

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Hey Guys,
Yes, I'm a girl and I NEED your help PLEASE!!!!! I need to know if this guy is interested in me. I've known (of him) but didn't really know him personally for about 3 years. A few weeks ago this guy approached me at a club and said he had been seeing me coming to the shows (we like the same band) and he said he had been wanting to meet me for a long time. He introduced himself and chatted for a bit. The next time I saw him he just walked up to me and hugged me and kind of invited me to come to a concert he was going to but he didn't really ask as a date. Then he just came out and asked me point blank if I was single...and now he's hugging me more and is rubbing his hand down my arm slowly when he talks to me...IS HE INTERESTED IN ME? I'm not sure if he's just wanting to be FRIENDS or he's REALLY INTERESTED.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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hes doing everything to show you hes interested, does he need to write a note to see if you like him back?
guys dont hug people they arent interested in, unless its his mother or grandmother, and then its a completely different hug.

~ answered by another chick in a mens disscussion forum ~
 

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Originally posted by penkitten
hes doing everything to show you hes interested, does he need to write a note to see if you like him back?
guys dont hug people they arent interested in, unless its his mother or grandmother, and then its a completely different hug.

~ answered by another chick in a mens disscussion forum ~
good advice, except I hug my best friend here in ecuador, and my best friend is a she. But generally you are right.

Also, with a name like penkitten, how could you be anything but a girl(unless you're a gay:p)?
 

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THANKS PenKitten!!!! I just wasn't sure cause after he asked if I was single...he said he was too but didn't want a girlfriend. I WAS BAFFLED by that comment...cause I figured guys ONLY ask if you're single if they ARE INTERESTED!!!!! I didn't know what to think...so I'm trying to play it Cool with him and not show TOO MUCH ENTHUSIASM about him yet. But I DO like this guy...so how should I proceed with him?
 

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Originally posted by wavejams007
good advice, except I hug my best friend here in ecuador, and my best friend is a she. But generally you are right.
if neither of you was dating, and she gave you the right signs, wouldnt you start getting the hots for her?

from what i understand, girls can have guy friends that we have never pictured nekkid, however you guys picture every girl nekkid, so of course you have thought of your best friend.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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The Juan and only

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You don't know if he's interested? what? I almost thought this was fake for a second. I don't want to sound harsh, but try to use a bit of common sense; of course he's interested.


"he said he had been wanting to meet me for a long time. He introduced himself and chatted for a bit", "is he interested?" - no, I think he hates you.:rolleyes:

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I dunno what you're trying to point out with that remark?? maybe that the forum is overrun with women and you aren't supposed to be here? well ok, fair enough. leave then innit.
 
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Originally posted by The Juan and only




I dunno what you're trying to point out with that remark?? maybe that the forum is overrun with women and you aren't suppose to be here? well ok, fair enough. leave then innit.
lighten up a little, this is just the freaking internet here.
 
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Did he get your number?? If he did he's interested. If he didn't, well ... 1. He's playin' 2. He's not man enough yet.

BTW... What's you number?? ;)
 

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Originally posted by penkitten
lighten up a little, this is just the freaking internet here.
a'ight don't get your panties in a twist, I wasn't being particularly serious when I said that - was just commenting on your post.
I don't care if you stay, actually I think having some women on the board is a good thing.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The hugging thing seems kind of lame after just meeting you. It's not a very *manly* thing to be doing. Friends hug, lovers hug - but only after being intimate at home plate.

He's a shy guy and needs some help - figures by touching you more you will open up and touch him back. You need to encourage him to ask you out - getting him over that shy hurdle.
 

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Yeah..female afc's don't exist.It's a legend.
 
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Originally posted by tmpgstx
The hugging thing seems kind of lame after just meeting you. It's not a very *manly* thing to be doing. Friends hug, lovers hug - but only after being intimate at home plate.

He's a shy guy and needs some help - figures by touching you more you will open up and touch him back. You need to encourage him to ask you out - getting him over that shy hurdle.
Didn't I say he's not man enough yet. Give him the address of this site and wait say... a month. We'll work him over for ya.... :kick: lol

I guess you could open him up... sounds like an adventure for you.

BTW... ImaGirl, you got pretty teeth... :cool:
 

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Thanks Guys...but don't be too rough on him...I like him and I LOVE his hugs...even if it was lame lol,lol You guys can call me KK!!!
 

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He likes you. Now it is your job to make it BLATANTLY obvious you like him.

Liking the same bands really means ALOT in compatibility and persona.

Just do your girly,flirty thing make sure you touch him to let you know you like him. Make things easy for him.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by penkitten
if neither of you was dating, and she gave you the right signs, wouldnt you start getting the hots for her?

from what i understand, girls can have guy friends that we have never pictured nekkid, however you guys picture every girl nekkid, so of course you have thought of your best friend.
Hypothetically, if I were to think of her as you say, would that automatically make me into some chauvinistic pig?

But do girls not picture any guy friends naked?
 

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I do touch him and hug him and I always kiss him on the cheek when I leave. Wouldn't that let him know that I am interested in him?
 

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Uh .. Yeah! What is with all this cheek pecking and hugging BS. Our society is becoming more feminized like France (scary)!

I would've definitely asked you out by now and formally had you done the same to me.

I think this guy needs to read some Non-Juan in the tip section.
 

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Originally posted by wavejams007
Hypothetically, if I were to think of her as you say, would that automatically make me into some chauvinistic pig?

But do girls not picture any guy friends naked?
a pig? no, i think its normal for you guys to automatically picture people nekkid.
and no, i dont picture my friends nekkid , unless it was a friend i was interested in.
 

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Originally posted by ImaGirl
Then he just came out and asked me point blank if I was single...and now he's rubbing his hand down my arm slowly when he talks to me...IS HE INTERESTED IN ME? I'm not sure if he's just wanting to be FRIENDS or he's REALLY INTERESTED.
I can see two indicators of interest:
1. He asks you if u have a boyfriend
2. Rubs your arm.
Maybe he´s just being polite, but i think that would be too much coincidence. I wish you good luck with this guy!!!!
;)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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