"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hey Guys Will Ya Help Me?

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Hey Guys,
Yes, I'm a girl and I NEED your help PLEASE!!!!! I need to know if this guy is interested in me. I've known (of him) but didn't really know him personally for about 3 years. A few weeks ago this guy approached me at a club and said he had been seeing me coming to the shows (we like the same band) and he said he had been wanting to meet me for a long time. He introduced himself and chatted for a bit. The next time I saw him he just walked up to me and hugged me and kind of invited me to come to a concert he was going to but he didn't really ask as a date. Then he just came out and asked me point blank if I was single...and now he's hugging me more and is rubbing his hand down my arm slowly when he talks to me...IS HE INTERESTED IN ME? I'm not sure if he's just wanting to be FRIENDS or he's REALLY INTERESTED.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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hes doing everything to show you hes interested, does he need to write a note to see if you like him back?
guys dont hug people they arent interested in, unless its his mother or grandmother, and then its a completely different hug.

~ answered by another chick in a mens disscussion forum ~
 

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Originally posted by penkitten
hes doing everything to show you hes interested, does he need to write a note to see if you like him back?
guys dont hug people they arent interested in, unless its his mother or grandmother, and then its a completely different hug.

~ answered by another chick in a mens disscussion forum ~
good advice, except I hug my best friend here in ecuador, and my best friend is a she. But generally you are right.

Also, with a name like penkitten, how could you be anything but a girl(unless you're a gay:p)?
 

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THANKS PenKitten!!!! I just wasn't sure cause after he asked if I was single...he said he was too but didn't want a girlfriend. I WAS BAFFLED by that comment...cause I figured guys ONLY ask if you're single if they ARE INTERESTED!!!!! I didn't know what to think...so I'm trying to play it Cool with him and not show TOO MUCH ENTHUSIASM about him yet. But I DO like this guy...so how should I proceed with him?
 

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Originally posted by wavejams007
good advice, except I hug my best friend here in ecuador, and my best friend is a she. But generally you are right.
if neither of you was dating, and she gave you the right signs, wouldnt you start getting the hots for her?

from what i understand, girls can have guy friends that we have never pictured nekkid, however you guys picture every girl nekkid, so of course you have thought of your best friend.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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The Juan and only

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You don't know if he's interested? what? I almost thought this was fake for a second. I don't want to sound harsh, but try to use a bit of common sense; of course he's interested.


"he said he had been wanting to meet me for a long time. He introduced himself and chatted for a bit", "is he interested?" - no, I think he hates you.:rolleyes:

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I dunno what you're trying to point out with that remark?? maybe that the forum is overrun with women and you aren't supposed to be here? well ok, fair enough. leave then innit.
 
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Originally posted by The Juan and only




I dunno what you're trying to point out with that remark?? maybe that the forum is overrun with women and you aren't suppose to be here? well ok, fair enough. leave then innit.
lighten up a little, this is just the freaking internet here.
 
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Did he get your number?? If he did he's interested. If he didn't, well ... 1. He's playin' 2. He's not man enough yet.

BTW... What's you number?? ;)
 

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Originally posted by penkitten
lighten up a little, this is just the freaking internet here.
a'ight don't get your panties in a twist, I wasn't being particularly serious when I said that - was just commenting on your post.
I don't care if you stay, actually I think having some women on the board is a good thing.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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The hugging thing seems kind of lame after just meeting you. It's not a very *manly* thing to be doing. Friends hug, lovers hug - but only after being intimate at home plate.

He's a shy guy and needs some help - figures by touching you more you will open up and touch him back. You need to encourage him to ask you out - getting him over that shy hurdle.
 

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Yeah..female afc's don't exist.It's a legend.
 
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Originally posted by tmpgstx
The hugging thing seems kind of lame after just meeting you. It's not a very *manly* thing to be doing. Friends hug, lovers hug - but only after being intimate at home plate.

He's a shy guy and needs some help - figures by touching you more you will open up and touch him back. You need to encourage him to ask you out - getting him over that shy hurdle.
Didn't I say he's not man enough yet. Give him the address of this site and wait say... a month. We'll work him over for ya.... :kick: lol

I guess you could open him up... sounds like an adventure for you.

BTW... ImaGirl, you got pretty teeth... :cool:
 

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Thanks Guys...but don't be too rough on him...I like him and I LOVE his hugs...even if it was lame lol,lol You guys can call me KK!!!
 

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He likes you. Now it is your job to make it BLATANTLY obvious you like him.

Liking the same bands really means ALOT in compatibility and persona.

Just do your girly,flirty thing make sure you touch him to let you know you like him. Make things easy for him.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by penkitten
if neither of you was dating, and she gave you the right signs, wouldnt you start getting the hots for her?

from what i understand, girls can have guy friends that we have never pictured nekkid, however you guys picture every girl nekkid, so of course you have thought of your best friend.
Hypothetically, if I were to think of her as you say, would that automatically make me into some chauvinistic pig?

But do girls not picture any guy friends naked?
 

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I do touch him and hug him and I always kiss him on the cheek when I leave. Wouldn't that let him know that I am interested in him?
 

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Uh .. Yeah! What is with all this cheek pecking and hugging BS. Our society is becoming more feminized like France (scary)!

I would've definitely asked you out by now and formally had you done the same to me.

I think this guy needs to read some Non-Juan in the tip section.
 

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Originally posted by wavejams007
Hypothetically, if I were to think of her as you say, would that automatically make me into some chauvinistic pig?

But do girls not picture any guy friends naked?
a pig? no, i think its normal for you guys to automatically picture people nekkid.
and no, i dont picture my friends nekkid , unless it was a friend i was interested in.
 

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Originally posted by ImaGirl
Then he just came out and asked me point blank if I was single...and now he's rubbing his hand down my arm slowly when he talks to me...IS HE INTERESTED IN ME? I'm not sure if he's just wanting to be FRIENDS or he's REALLY INTERESTED.
I can see two indicators of interest:
1. He asks you if u have a boyfriend
2. Rubs your arm.
Maybe he´s just being polite, but i think that would be too much coincidence. I wish you good luck with this guy!!!!
;)
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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