"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

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The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hey, after lurking on this forum for awhile now, I finally registered.

I have never had any trouble attracting theladies since i got my ass in shape and put my attitude and confidence in order.

One of the things I do to pay my way through college is im a server at a restaurant. Now..my question is..

what advice do you guys offer for this scenario


HB comes in...I wait on her table.. I make plenty of eye contact, smiles, her body language clearly tells me shes interested.
except for one problem...her mom..or dad is always with her. If she was alone, I would have no problem sealing the deal (number...etc)

what should I do when that happens? to single her out. (keep in mind, I could get in trouble for hitting on them....not worried about the HB...its an old fashioned parent im worried about)
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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that's hard...parents don't wander off and the HB won't move away because of the control a parent discretely inhibits..

I can't say much really to get her away...because it's hard to do something w/o them noticing..

wait out..?
 

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Oh bro you are in luck. I was in the exact same situation. Slip them a note on a napkin, saying something like "hey I didnt want to bother you while your with your friends/family. But I would like to get to know you. Give this back to me with your number on it." Now I dunno exactly what I used to write cuz it was a while ago but I had a 90% success rate with that technique. And the parents never said anything to me. So just figure out what your gonna put on the napkin and your in the game.
 

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Hahahaha and is she tells the parents and they tell your boss............

It easy for my im a bar tender...
 

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lol I used to work in boston market, so the girls could have told their parents who could have told my boss easily. But no girl is that *****y, trust me he wont get in trouble.
 

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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Thats a pretty risky assumption. I know a lot of very f**ked up girls but chances are itl be fine.

So yeh try what Grifon said.
 

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Originally posted by griffon65
Oh bro you are in luck. I was in the exact same situation. Slip them a note on a napkin, saying something like "hey I didnt want to bother you while your with your friends/family. But I would like to get to know you. Give this back to me with your number on it." Now I dunno exactly what I used to write cuz it was a while ago but I had a 90% success rate with that technique. And the parents never said anything to me. So just figure out what your gonna put on the napkin and your in the game.
i'd never do anything where there's proof of anything.

i just know some chick would run around making fun of me showing the note to everyone.

but i'm a pessimist =p
 

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"i just know some chick would run around making fun of me showing the note to everyone."

how can she prove it was you, EVEN if she brought a bunch of girls with her to point you out, guess what......
 

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Originally posted by Docs
"i just know some chick would run around making fun of me showing the note to everyone."

how can she prove it was you, EVEN if she brought a bunch of girls with her to point you out, guess what......

People don't require proof to believe whatever they want.

You lose by default.

Kinda like rape accusations.



Yeah i know you shouldn't care even if she and everyone else makes fun of you. Do what ya want but i'm not leaving any note.
 

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^^ hey thast cool. All I gotta say is that this approach doesnt rely on personality and has been tested. And from my experiance I've had no troubles with parents or boss. If you dont want to use it thats fine but I'm jsut telling you what works in the real world.
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Originally posted by mrRuckus
i'd never do anything where there's proof of anything.

i just know some chick would run around making fun of me showing the note to everyone.

but i'm a pessimist =p

That was an excellant suggestion about the napkin...too bad its hard even that way becuase the effing 'rents are RIGHT there...Now that i think about it...im gonna write something like that...and wait for them to turn their heads and slip it to her...or go to the bathroom..then I'll pounce that sh!t.

as for someone making fun of me?? not happening... even if a ***** was crazy enough to do that (the odds are .0001%) most girls around her...and certianly the ones I work with would think she was crazy.

besides I can't be embarrassed, esp. by a trick. I rise above it. Her Loss...not mine.
 

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Sometimes you just have to take the risk. Yes it can blow up in your face but thats the risk you take.
 
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