"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Herbivorous Men
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Desert Fox
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isn't this just a synonym for metrosexual? or borderline f4gs?
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I'm a bit confused as to how an economic downturn would result in increased feminine behavior among men....Unless it's some kind of subconscious despair brought on by the pressures of the traditional male role?
Yeah, that doesnt make much sense. In a bad economy, you'd think guys wouldnt be buying makeup, and fag-bags, hairspray, and designer jeans. Plus banging chicks is free, providing you have one to fvck consistantly.
A new bar just opened down the street from me, and its a really great place, except all the hipsters, and metros hang out there. They had two metro bars for themselves, but they both closed, so now they hang out at the new bar. Even all the chicks there have that new hipster chick look, (not that it looks bad, cuz it doesnt) as if all twenty of them are sisters, hanging out with their gay brothers. I think my new opener is "So, do you date straight dudes?"
A new bar just opened down the street from me, and its a really great place, except all the hipsters, and metros hang out there. They had two metro bars for themselves, but they both closed, so now they hang out at the new bar. Even all the chicks there have that new hipster chick look, (not that it looks bad, cuz it doesnt) as if all twenty of them are sisters, hanging out with their gay brothers. I think my new opener is "So, do you date straight dudes?"
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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It's obviously easier to define yourself as someone who belongs to a certain demographic than to acknowledge that those qualities might actually be faults or weaknesses that need to be corrected. Examples I can think of are "geeky," "metrosexual," "big-boned," or the countless people who falsely diagnose themselves as having disorders where they actually just do not have the will-power to put in the effort required to overcome the deficiency (and here I acknowledge the fact that disorders actually do exist).
What makes this sort of thing easier is the ability to find like-minded people.
"See, there are other people just like me. I'm not wrong, I'm just different!"
The Internet obviously exacerbates the situation because all you have to do is type a couple of words into Google and you can find hundreds of people who support your point of view or lifestyle choice. Tons of these Japanese "herbivores" can be found in Internet cafes or at home sitting on their computers. Similarly, Western equivalents can be found in the same place.
What I find interesting in this article is that the writer who coined the term "herbivore" claims that herbivores also flourished in pre-WWII Japanese culture. There must have been some other method of enabling this personality-type in Japan that did not exist in Western culture because I do not believe the metrosexual-type really existed in North America until recently. According to Wikipedia, the earliest instance of any sort of Metrosexuality could be found in fashion magazines from the 80's, also that was the decade in which the term was coined (this is debated in the article - it possibly was not coined until 1994. Either way, the concept it a recent one).
Also contributing to metrosexuality is the fact that our culture is so saturated with feminine marketing, it's easy to denounce masculinity altogether. We're taught that being a man is outright wrong. I could be found walking the halls of metrosexuality until I actually found this website to teach me that being a man is acceptable, and in fact the correct way for someone with a penis to act.
What makes this sort of thing easier is the ability to find like-minded people.
"See, there are other people just like me. I'm not wrong, I'm just different!"
The Internet obviously exacerbates the situation because all you have to do is type a couple of words into Google and you can find hundreds of people who support your point of view or lifestyle choice. Tons of these Japanese "herbivores" can be found in Internet cafes or at home sitting on their computers. Similarly, Western equivalents can be found in the same place.
What I find interesting in this article is that the writer who coined the term "herbivore" claims that herbivores also flourished in pre-WWII Japanese culture. There must have been some other method of enabling this personality-type in Japan that did not exist in Western culture because I do not believe the metrosexual-type really existed in North America until recently. According to Wikipedia, the earliest instance of any sort of Metrosexuality could be found in fashion magazines from the 80's, also that was the decade in which the term was coined (this is debated in the article - it possibly was not coined until 1994. Either way, the concept it a recent one).
Also contributing to metrosexuality is the fact that our culture is so saturated with feminine marketing, it's easy to denounce masculinity altogether. We're taught that being a man is outright wrong. I could be found walking the halls of metrosexuality until I actually found this website to teach me that being a man is acceptable, and in fact the correct way for someone with a penis to act.
Didn't read the whole article, but isn't all of this b!tching about the "new breed" of men getting a little old?
A beta is a beta no matter how you dress him up, and an alpha is an alpha regardless of whether or not he carries a "man bag".
A chick tells me the other day "You dress like a gay guy".
I reply "Fukk you".
Then she says "That's a good thing.... a lot of straight guys have no style".
Then I realized that this was coming from a chick I am having sex with.
A beta is a beta no matter how you dress him up, and an alpha is an alpha regardless of whether or not he carries a "man bag".
A chick tells me the other day "You dress like a gay guy".
I reply "Fukk you".
Then she says "That's a good thing.... a lot of straight guys have no style".
Then I realized that this was coming from a chick I am having sex with.
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The difference here is that betas are advertising their betaness as a desirable lifestyle versus a deficiency. The more often you're told acting like a female is "right" and acting like a male is "wrong," the higher the probability you're going to act like a female. The more people you find that also follow your path, the more likely you are to stick to it and draw others in.STR8UP said:
Feminist cultural messages and the globalization of knowledge is causing the herbivore lifestyle to proliferate. Yes they are betas but there are many more than there ever were.
Luthor Rex
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I think the worse of the lot are these true forced loneliness guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xg8nek158w
http://www.trueforcedloneliness.com/
I know it's wrong to laugh at them and their pain... but really... :crackup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xg8nek158w
http://www.trueforcedloneliness.com/
I know it's wrong to laugh at them and their pain... but really... :crackup:
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true forced loneliness...
...so ****ing pathetic. seriously they should get lives
...so ****ing pathetic. seriously they should get lives
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
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I must be the change I wish to see in others. I can't do that isolating myself. I wonder if Bruce Lee sat in a room being frustrated that his martial arts gains were small and didn't work out because of it. A series of his small gains made one great gain.
"If you think a thing is impossible, you'll make it impossible. Pessimism blunts the tools you need to succeed." Bruce Lee
As far as that news reel goes, in the interview when the reporter talked to some ladies walking in the street, she asked them if they preferred those men. They responded with "we prefer carnivores". So there you have it, nature in effect.
"If you think a thing is impossible, you'll make it impossible. Pessimism blunts the tools you need to succeed." Bruce Lee
As far as that news reel goes, in the interview when the reporter talked to some ladies walking in the street, she asked them if they preferred those men. They responded with "we prefer carnivores". So there you have it, nature in effect.
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Are there really more betas out there than ever? Or are betas now more prominent with the advent of free broadcasting (vis a vis Y-tube, facebook, blogs, twitter, forums)?LeftyLoosey said:
It seems to me that alpha's have better things to do than post stuff in the media.
sharkbeat
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ugh. As long as they don't make it here to the US, is all I am hoping for. This is like the end of mankind, when men don't know how to act like men.
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Nah.Rollo Tomassi said:
jophil28
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Why?Rollo Tomassi said:
Just another bizarro fad with a half life of seven minutes.
As long as I don't have to listen to those sushi sparrows singing Karaoke in a Tokyo gay bar I could care less.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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no kidding
when I was there 2 years ago I really had to look at the mass of long dyed hair and skinny jeans with purses to see which were male and which were female. scary
when I was there 2 years ago I really had to look at the mass of long dyed hair and skinny jeans with purses to see which were male and which were female. scary
Luthor Rex
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Well it being Japan, I expect a tentacle monster raping a school girl and then calling her up the next day.Colossus said:
Da Realist
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I've tried thinking of coming up with some witty and terse saying after reading the article, but all I can say is that this is plain pathetic. No goals. No desires. To think this is where Bushido started.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.