"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Her Parents [LTR]

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Just wondering, and thinking lately, about past relationships.

Any of you have a LTR where the parents ruined it for you?

Example: feminazi mothers
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yes. The example you gave. Feminazi mothers.
 

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Yes however in my case it was an obsessively intrusive single mother.
I felt I was in a relationship with her daughter and her.
 

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I had a short relationship with a girl a few years ago who had a fanatical control freak mother. It was obvious to me that this woman controlled the lives of her three kids as well as her husband. She filled this girls head with all kinds of nonsense and I was convinced that she had a lot to do with the end of things between us. I remember thinking this girl would be a lot better off if she could get out from under her mothers thumb, but that's her problem. Not mine.
 

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Yeah! Her Mother wanted to Bang With me. No Joke.
She was Hot 45, good looking Blonde and skinny.
I turn her down. Big Mistake after that Hell on Earth for my relationship.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Just wondering, and thinking lately, about past relationships.

Any of you have a LTR where the parents ruined it for you?

Example: feminazi mothers
Yes. Had a mother interfere because she hated men. She stood between all her daughters and their boyfriends. If the girl your dating is strong enough to stand buy you you can put the manging mother in her place. If the girl is under moms thumb it will never work.
 

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Yes however in my case it was an obsessively intrusive single mother.
I felt I was in a relationship with her daughter and her.
In a way you were. Just not how you wanted.
 

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Yup, I've known several girls with immature, entitled mothers and absentee fathers who were ruined for a relationship with me a long time before I ever came into the picture.

The dynamic of a girl's relationship with her parents is the single most important predictor of her fitness for a LTR.
 

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The dynamic of a girl's relationship with her parents is the single most important predictor of her fitness for a LTR.
Makes me think that knowing the parents before going exclusive, is mandatory! Could save a lot of grief.
 

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Makes me think that knowing the parents before going exclusive, is mandatory! Could save a lot of grief.
I don't think meeting them is even necessary. I just mention some things about my parents (usually the first or second night I meet a girl)--and they'll tell you everything you need to know.

Red flags to look out for:
-Absent dad (she probably sleeps with a lot of guys)
-A mom whose a user and who "she'll never be like" (she'll be just like her mother)
-A mentally unstable mom (watch out)
-A controlling mother (she'll be controlling)
-Abusive parents (obviously)
-If either mom or dad were habitual cheaters (if mom, she'll probably cheat on you; if dad, she'll probably go cold & avoidant at the first sign of real intimacy)
-A father who is weak, soft, or overly attentive (serial monogamist alert)
-Whether her parents had her at a very young age (high risk pregnancy alert)

None of these things immediately disqualify her, but I'm rarely surprised how things end.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I don't think meeting them is even necessary. I just mention some things about my parents (usually the first or second night I meet a girl)--and they'll tell you everything you need to know.

Red flags to look out for:
-Absent dad (she probably sleeps with a lot of guys)
-A mom whose a user and who "she'll never be like" (she'll be just like her mother)
-A mentally unstable mom (watch out)
-A controlling mother (she'll be controlling)
-Abusive parents (obviously)
-If either mom or dad were habitual cheaters (if mom, she'll probably cheat on you; if dad, she'll probably go cold & avoidant at the first sign of real intimacy)
-A father who is weak, soft, or overly attentive (serial monogamist alert)
-Whether her parents had her at a very young age (high risk pregnancy alert)

None of these things immediately disqualify her, but I'm rarely surprised how things end.
Thanks, that makes things easier!
 
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