"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Her LOI is High, Yours is Low
- Thread starter Triple X
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I did end up in a fvckbuddy relationship-thingy with a girl like that, but it turned out messy, since she was having feelings for me.
so, all "just **** her" replies can go elsewhere IMO.
secondly, since you're writing about this here, I assume you care about her, but ain't interested in her that way, correct?
Hence, all "next her" replies can take a leak.
My suggestion is to MAKE SURE that you end up in the friend zone. Who know's, she might have some nice friends......
//Deus
Edit: just read your reply you wrote whilst I was writing.. my suggestion still stands though, her friends will see you as "safe" if she deems you a friend..
Triple X
Senior Don Juan
It all depends on what you think of her. Is she worth a f***? I mean the girl I'm talking about I would definitely sleep with, but at the same time she's not one you'd bring home to mom & dad or show off to your mates. Know what I'm saying?
So basically... if the girl is f***able, I would take the opportunity and get your nuts in. At the end of the day, any hole is indeed a goal.
Edit: Dammit Deus, you beat me lol. Well you might be right with the 'all just f*** her replies can go away' comment, I dunno. That's what I would do (f*** her) anyway.
Just turn AFC on her arse =) that'll make her run away screaming as they usually do..
@Tripple X: *shrugs* I know your reasoning...
but some chicks just aren't worth the trouble....BTW shez, what do you mean by "sarge on"?? I've seen it a dozen times, but I haven't thought about it before...
//Deus
but no worries, I'm getting more and more sargeholic.....
Just wish the girls over here wasn't so goddarn hard....
"dating" is a vague thing here... *shrugs*
and not many of the "rules" laid down on this site works either. I think I've just been lucky when it comes to screwing. No real LTRs though....
Though, I have confirmed that "smirting" works. and the kino.... though both of those are natural to me.. what can I say, I like smoking, and I like touching girls.. *shrugs and tries to look innocent..*
//Deus
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Well, if she's a high quality woman then you might want to consider telling her that you'd like her to surprise you a bit to spice things up. If she can handle open discussions like that...just tell her that in the past you've gotten bored with women because they don't keep you guessing. If she's smart she will catch the hint and try to keep you interested. This is a mistake a lot of women make with men. They just don't know how to stimulate him in a way that keeps him wanting her. Women are good at picking up on little hints if you are able to drop them in a way that doesn't hurt her feelings.