Help , Was I Wrong?????

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ok, its not often im wrong , but i think i may need to apolagize to some guy, i said testosterone levels have decreased in men compared to what they used to be, i could have sworn i read it somewhere, maybe i didnt?, anyway this guy wants proof , do i need to grab my balls and apologize?

help, anyone?

 

[Templeton]

You're right mate they do!

Why do you think so many middle aged men are now turning to testosterone replacement therapy?

Oh sorry, I'm referring to men as they age in their own lifetime. Are you referring to men in this day and age as opposed to in the past? Not sure on that one but I would doubt it.

 

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no i meant in this day and age, compared to what they used to be say 100 years ago or something.

im probably mistaken.

 

[Elimidate]

I'm not sure if the actual make up of the human body can change that much in a 100 years.

Are you referring to how men aren't as manly now days?

If so, this is definitley the case.

Our social conditioning has feminized men over the years, which may only get worse or better since real man with balls like us will stand out amoung the pack.


Elimidate

 

[Monkey]

People thesedays eat more fatty foods, more sugar, less vegetables, drink more alcohol than 100years ago and all these and others mess with hormones leading to less testosterone and/or an increase in estrogen.

 

[willo]

There has been reports in aquatic species that the males have become more "feminised" and having malformed male organs and stuff like that. My sister (a Phd biochemist) seems to think it is because a lot of pollutants have estrogenic like structures (mind you she's very alarmist about a lot of things). This may mean men are less manly than in the past i guess (i'm a microbiologist so i don't care much for biochemistry).
You could do a search and find some sort of info to back your self up *shrug
Cheers

 

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Originally posted by willo

You could do a search and find some sort of info to back your self up *shrug
Cheers

thanks anyways for the input, and trust me I searched and searched but nothing , believe me i looked everywhere, i hate being wrong about this sh!t, ESPECIALLY when its something to do with how men of today are a bunch of puzzies.

although i did post this article on sosuave awhile back, and it "kind" of touches on the subject, but as far as i can tell still no solid proof we have less testosterone, maybe i dreamt it?.

the Ychromosome is now a weedy, genetic mess, riddled with damage, decay and mutation. It is, he says, slowly diminishing and ultimately doomed.

The reason is that the Ychromosome is unable to heal itself. Unlike men, women have two strapping X-chromosomes. These can pair up and swop genes to minimise bad mutations. The Y-chromosome of male DNA simply cannot do this.
And hence, natural mutations and damage simply keep accumulating through the generations.

In the face of this decline, the male’s Y-chromosome has no ‘partner’ from which to seek repairs. It is alone, and suffering what Prof Sykes calls ‘death from a thousand cuts’.

The evidence is all around us, and it’s not just the increasing feminisation of men, evolving over time into androgynous figures such as David Beckham. Prof Sykes also cites the increase in male infertility.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/lifeandstyle/articles/6269513?source=Daily Mail

 

[willo]

here is an article i found about what i said earlier u may be able to find something in there
http://www.genderweb.org/general/femtch.phtml

Cheers

 

[hardwork]

Are you talking about this article, gents?

http://www.worldandi.com/public/2001/October/sax.html

 

[bp1974]

the Ychromosome is now a weedy, genetic mess, riddled with damage, decay and mutation. It is, he says, slowly diminishing and ultimately doomed.

The reason is that the Ychromosome is unable to heal itself. Unlike men, women have two strapping X-chromosomes. These can pair up and swop genes to minimise bad mutations. The Y-chromosome of male DNA simply cannot do this.
And hence, natural mutations and damage simply keep accumulating through the generations.

In the face of this decline, the male’s Y-chromosome has no ‘partner’ from which to seek repairs. It is alone, and suffering what Prof Sykes calls ‘death from a thousand cuts’.

The evidence is all around us, and it’s not just the increasing feminisation of men, evolving over time into androgynous figures such as David Beckham. Prof Sykes also cites the increase in male infertility.

I read another article just recently that says that the y-chromosome is much more complex than was thought when the above was written, and it appears to have some very complex self-healing abilities related to mirroring of various parts of itself.
Something about the fact that of the 18gazillion sections of the y-chromosome, only ten or so were thought to mean anything. But it turns out that a lot of the rest of it isn't junk, it's redundancy. Just like a man to make a backup.

Can't be bothered to find the article, sorry.