Hey everyone, i'd appreciate help on a specific subject. So i am 18 currently on the last year of my studies and i've known a girl who we would refer to as M. We've been friends for a while but i decided to grow some balls and ask her out before valentines day. We were always cool with eachothers and chat all the time sharing laughs and jokes. Now the problem with this girl is that she doesent trust anyone due to past experiences. I mean literally anyone. But i managed to gain her trust. And during that date i was feeling like i am going to get her even gifted her one hell of a necklace. All i needed was just a little bit. A few days later i noticed that she suddenly changed. She responded to my texts with short answers. Never answers my call and proceeds to text me right after calling by saying "what do you want". And now she's taking it to another level. Hugging other guys and even laughing with them and immeditaly turning her frown when i try to talk to her. When i tried to ask her what was going on she started saying that she doesn't want me to be close to her for my sake and not hers (but i know that's a load of bull crap). What should i do? I need her. Thanks
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Help understanding current case with a girl
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I was thinking that she might be trying to make me jealous is that a possible thing? I caught her looking at me a few times and then quickly looking away when i notice. Also something i forgot to write is that she only does this behavior when i'm around
Edit: she's also always cared about helping with my insecurities and problems. And she used to insists on me hanging with her at her house
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Roober
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She is telling you exactly who she is... Use your head! Not the one between your legs!
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
What should you do?
Next and wash your hands of her for good. When they turn disrespectful don't waste any more time on her. It is one thing that she isn't interested. We get that. But when she turns rude and disrespectful, cut her out of your life 100%
Don't reward her bad behaviour with having you in her life. Next.
Building_and_Loan
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You bought her a necklace, is that right? If so, you shouldn't have done that. That stuff is reserved for serious relationships between adults, not what you 2 may have had.
Live and learn, man. But I think that scared her off. Reciprocate by showing her as much attention as she shows you, and see how she responds.
When a girl likes you and wants you to pursue her, she makes it easy for you. Not harder. She isn't trying to make you jealous, she's trying to make you see that she isn't interested.
Live and learn, man. But I think that scared her off. Reciprocate by showing her as much attention as she shows you, and see how she responds.
When a girl likes you and wants you to pursue her, she makes it easy for you. Not harder. She isn't trying to make you jealous, she's trying to make you see that she isn't interested.
Bingo-Player
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just sounds like a basic case of lack of respect
when you give off a soft aurora around women they will walk over you like this one is trying to do
forget about her , toughen up , be a real man and then try another chick
when you give off a soft aurora around women they will walk over you like this one is trying to do
forget about her , toughen up , be a real man and then try another chick
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.