"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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HELP - only not attractive girls like me!

LittleBigOne

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Can someone explain me why only girls who are not attractive (to me) are falling for me. I am cool, funny, ****y etc against attractive woman but they stay most of the time more unreachable. And i look like a deer in the headlights when a less attractive woman starts to show interst what i really don't like! How too avoid this?

LittleBigOne

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Tomatoes

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It could be a case of sods law. I had something simlar happen to me when i was in school.

Whenever i fancied a girl i would build a rapport with her...then...when she is getting a little intrested....her best mate (ugly) would declare her undying love for me......happened about 3 times. I thought i was cursed....


If you dont think its a case of chance. Its going to be how you are treating these girls. You are prob flaking on the UGs all the time and pedestaling the HB. That will nearly always result in your current situation. It could be the way you talk to them. You talk to the UGs on a friend lvl? You talk to the HB on a PU lvl?

Try experimenting a little.....More info needed if you want more insight than i have given above really...
 

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I think being skinny has nothing to do with this...

I was once approached by a UG and she got WAY too close me... So without thinking I said to her, "I'm gay.." then my friend starts laughing.. lol I think I scarred that chick for life.. I kinda feel bad! lol But it was gross! Why is it that a lot of ugly chicks are so confident and willing to approach when it's clear that I'm completely out of their league? lol
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Jippii said:
are you skinny?
Best goddamn response I've seen here.
Seriously, she probably wasn't attracted physically.Simple as that.

Rule no1: Never over-estimate women. Women for the better or worse are extremely simple creatures. Why take something simple and try to turn it into something complex?

If she's not physically attracted, no ammount of "gamez" (be it "inner" or "outer") will change her mind.


I was once approached by a UG and she got WAY too close me... So without thinking I said to her, "I'm gay.." then my friend starts laughing.. lol I think I scarred that chick for life.. I kinda feel bad! lol But it was gross! Why is it that a lot of ugly chicks are so confident and willing to approach when it's clear that I'm completely out of their league? lol
But I'm sure with the right ammount of "gamez" she could have changed your mind! :up: ;) :crackup: Now, of course we know that it doesn't work that way: If we're not physically attracted to a girl, there's nothing she could possibly do to change our mind. We take that for granted, because we just know that we're wired like that. So why can't some of you accept that girls work exactly the same way? again,why take something simple and try to turn it into something complex?



To the OP: You're probably simply not attractive enough to interest attractive girls. "Why is it that a lot of ugly/average guys are so confident and willing to approach girls when it's clear that they're completely out of their league? lol"

Of course, we should all try to look our best when approaching women. But there's limit in how we can physically improve. If you're 5'7 and the girl only gets wet for 6'0 and above guy there's nothing you can do. If she only gets wet for guys that have the V-shape body then there's nothing you can do (since like height, that's determine by your bones). If she only get wets for guys that have the chiseled lower face,then there's nothing you can do...If you have an ugly mug and she only gets wet for handsome etc...see where I'm getting?

Reality says: attractive girls only wants handsome guys.Right there that's nature operating at the most basic level,ensuring that the best elements get together to ensure there's at least a few strong elements within the specy.
Same way most of you guys wouldn't touch an average or a UG girl with a ten-foot pole,these girl don't want anything to do with guys that aren't to their level. It's basic darwinian biology really :p



Anyway,all this to say: stick to girls that are in the same level as you look-wise and you'll do fine. If any of you still object after that... then you haven't been paying atttention! And I've been talking to some thick headed folks :up:
 

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To RAK-X: what you have written only counts at first sight. I agree that woman want in the first place a good looking man. But if he turns out to be a complete AFC he is death too, also if he is looking like Brad Pitt. And believe me, i know several of such guys.
Better read the DJ bible once more and with more attention! If relative not attractive guys cant have pretty girls, SOSUAVE would not even excist.


Rak-X said:
Best goddamn response I've seen here.
Seriously, she probably wasn't attracted physically.Simple as that.

Rule no1: Never over-estimate women. Women for the better or worse are extremely simple creatures. Why take something simple and try to turn it into something complex?

If she's not physically attracted, no ammount of "gamez" (be it "inner" or "outer") will change her mind.




But I'm sure with the right ammount of "gamez" she could have changed your mind! :up: ;) :crackup: Now, of course we know that it doesn't work that way: If we're not physically attracted to a girl, there's nothing she could possibly do to change our mind. We take that for granted, because we just know that we're wired like that. So why can't some of you accept that girls work exactly the same way? again,why take something simple and try to turn it into something complex?



To the OP: You're probably simply not attractive enough to interest attractive girls. "Why is it that a lot of ugly/average guys are so confident and willing to approach girls when it's clear that they're completely out of their league? lol"

Of course, we should all try to look our best when approaching women. But there's limit in how we can physically improve. If you're 5'7 and the girl only gets wet for 6'0 and above guy there's nothing you can do. If she only gets wet for guys that have the V-shape body then there's nothing you can do (since like height, that's determine by your bones). If she only get wets for guys that have the chiseled lower face,then there's nothing you can do...If you have an ugly mug and she only gets wet for handsome etc...see where I'm getting?

Reality says: attractive girls only wants handsome guys.Right there that's nature operating at the most basic level,ensuring that the best elements get together to ensure there's at least a few strong elements within the specy.
Same way most of you guys wouldn't touch an average or a UG girl with a ten-foot pole,these girl don't want anything to do with guys that aren't to their level. It's basic darwinian biology really :p



Anyway,all this to say: stick to girls that are in the same level as you look-wise and you'll do fine. If any of you still object after that... then you haven't been paying atttention! And I've been talking to some thick headed folks :up:
 

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LittleBigOne..

Have you gone through the DJBC?? Sounds like you simply need experience around women, feeling comfortable to approach, advance, etc. In my experience, I actually do QUITE well around women I've known for some time. But, like you, I have difficulty with someone new that I find attractive. I can't read signs, I hesitate to move things along, etc. I'm getting better at just being comfortable around new women, and looking for signs of interest.

In general, if an attractive woman is comfortable talking with you, keep going.. if you flirt, and she's cool with it, you are getting a green light. Try touching her hand or shoulder some time, make eye contact. If she's fine with that, you're doing well...
 

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LittleBigOne said:
Can someone explain me why only girls who are not attractive (to me) are falling for me.
Thats why. Your first sentence = your easy answer. Because you dont care about them.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Hey Thomas 94305...

Your situation looks like mine. I have the same troubles as you. I am also doing well with woman, i do flirt a lot, but still i am too often too nice and hesitate. But it's getting better....it just takes a lot of team. And dealing with the woman i do like is also getting better. Final goal is to get a woman who is attractive who i DeeJeed!
 

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LittleBigOne said:
Can someone explain me why only girls who are not attractive (to me) are falling for me. I am cool, funny, ****y etc against attractive woman but they stay most of the time more unreachable. And i look like a deer in the headlights when a less attractive woman starts to show interst what i really don't like! How too avoid this?

LittleBigOne

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Too easy! :D ... EXPLOIT them to get to the hot ones .... :up:
 
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