"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Help Me With This Kinder Convo

kidkurious

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I got a match with a decent-looking chick on tender.

Here's the convo I started with her so far.

me: hi
girl: hey
me: how's tinder treating you?
girl: not bad. can't complain. you?

I don't know where go from there.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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El Payaso

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Lol. You misspelled Tinder TWICE. Anyway, there should be stuff on her profile that you can go off of. Perhaps stuff she mentioned about what she does for a living, things she likes to do for fun, stuff about her personality. Anything go off that.
 

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El Payaso said:
Lol. You misspelled Tinder TWICE. Anyway, there should be stuff on her profile that you can go off of. Perhaps stuff she mentioned about what she does for a living, things she likes to do for fun, stuff about her personality. Anything go off that.
thanks

**** I didn't realize the typo haha
 

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Never start with Hi on Tinder.
Differentiate yourself and say something funny, or even sexual. Even a horrible pick up line would suffice...
 

gravityeyelids

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yea your first two lines are terribly boring. Youre going to have to turn it around with something that shows humor and personality.
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I might say something like "F**cking terrible. Keep getting stalked by all these girls. I mean i'm used to it, but still...."

But YMMV, obv dont use that if you're not going to be congruent with it when you keep talking. Once you build a decent level of comfort, you need to number close: "Tinder is so glitchy. Text me: (***)***-****"

Once you get the number, fluff for a few texts and then push for a "non-date" meetup, like coming to hangout at a coffee shop while you get stuff done, or w/e.

Tinder is not an app where you sit there and talk to her for weeks. You need to weed out the bad leads, quickly escalate to a number close and a meetup.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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gravityeyelids said:
something like "F**cking terrible. Keep getting stalked by all these girls. I mean i'm used to it, but still...."
excellent.

I used this.

she replied with: don't worry about me. i'm not a stalker

now what am I supposed to say?
 

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kidkurious said:
excellent.

I used this.

she replied with: don't worry about me. i'm not a stalker

now what am I supposed to say?
You really needa be yourself.
What are you going to do if you actually meet up with her and go out?
 

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CaptainSaveAh0 said:
You really needa be yourself.
What are you going to do if you actually meet up with her and go out?
I'll be on my phone the whole time asking you guys what to do next.

I replied with this:
it's good to know you won't stalk me after I take you out to a nice dinner and never call you back.
 

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what a bad troll
 

El Payaso

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Troll.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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kidkurious said:
I'll be on my phone the whole time asking you guys what to do next.

I replied with this:
it's good to know you won't stalk me after I take you out to a nice dinner and never call you back.
LMAO that kind of implies that she can get a nice free meal out of you
 

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hmm... not sure where to go from here... help me out fellas!

She seems to be responding well, unless I'm totally off (i've been out of the game for years... refer to the date of my previous threads haha)

 
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