"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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HB9 ... "Lets get coffee".. wtf?

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Blonde HB9 at the club I have seen before and have shared a laugh with in the past notices me with my 2 friends that are girls conversating and having a good time on the other side of the bar.

She has a ring on her finger that costs more than my car so she is married or engaged. While we were dancing she would have huge tall buff guys try to come in my set and dance with us... we would all be like "Noooooo... oooooo... noooo" waving our fingers around... rejecting guys that are CLEARLY more physically attractive than I am.

I do the classic spin move into the waltz on her and take her to the bar and I buy her a drink.

She tells me at the bar to take out my phone.. and she starts telling me her number. Then she says "we should grab some coffee."

We all know what "Lets grab a drink" means but wtf does "lets grab coffee" mean when she is married? She also told me she has 2 kids. She is at the bar alot for having 2 kids and is never with a man for having such a big rock...

Do you think she wants me as a f buddy... friend.. orbiter?
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Based on your story, you're not saying if you definitively know she's married. Women buy their own rings all the time, or if she was married and is now divorced she may still wear the ring if it's expensive and shiny. If she's married - off limits. If she's not - pursue. Either way, just ask her where she got the ring from.
 

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Harry Wilmington said:
Based on your story, you're not saying if you definitively know she's married. Women buy their own rings all the time, or if she was married and is now divorced she may still wear the ring if it's expensive and shiny. If she's married - off limits. If she's not - pursue. Either way, just ask her where she got the ring from.
Thanks Harry.. at first I thought it might be something to "keep the bad guys away" ... now that I think of it she is actually quite a beyach to everyone else in the club.

I would be cool just being friends with her at the club if she is married.. she makes killer social proof and her friends are hb's too.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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MillionBillionaire said:
I would be cool just being friends with her at the club if she is married.. she makes killer social proof and her friends are hb's too.
Dangerous waters here, my friend. If she is married, her regularly putting herself in a club environment makes her open to cheating on her husband (and you later on). You don't need to seek married women to make "friends" with, especially since that wouldn't be your actual intention in the first place.

If she's not married, it's still a horrible idea to go into this thing with the idea of trying to become her friend. I have also found that women used as "social proof" can also work the opposite way, where other girls are looking and wondering "wow, this hot girl is around him, but why isn't she kissing him or flirting with him? Maybe he's just an orbiter, like some of the other guy friends I have."
 

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Harry Wilmington said:
Dangerous waters here, my friend. If she is married, her regularly putting herself in a club environment makes her open to cheating on her husband (and you later on). You don't need to seek married women to make "friends" with, especially since that wouldn't be your actual intention in the first place.

If she's not married, it's still a horrible idea to go into this thing with the idea of trying to become her friend. I have also found that women used as "social proof" can also work the opposite way, where other girls are looking and wondering "wow, this hot girl is around him, but why isn't she kissing him or flirting with him? Maybe he's just an orbiter, like some of the other guy friends I have."
Harry.. do you think I should ask her if she is married via text before I ask her for coffee? Would this be a good idea?
 

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A date is a date , go and work your magic.

BTW , we have "men" out there spending $400 + on first dates with a woman they barely know and end up getting nothing.
Coffee is $5.
 

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I texted her today and got the date. We are going out on Friday at 9:30 pm... I'm picking her up... bringing her to a club.

I guess "lets get coffee" means lets go on a regular date.. and not so much.. I'll meet you at starbucks in the middle of the day for a few minutes.
 

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Conversating is not a word OP
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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