"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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HB8 that works at the gym showing interest?

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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BetterCallSaul

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I see what you guys are saying. At the end of the day even if I get rejected she is definitely showing strong interest. I did have a thought. I remember being told things are rocky with her boyfriend but she still just signed a lease with him..so if I ask her out in front of other co workers she might be concerned with one of them ratting her out. (her boyfriend goes to the gym that she works at) So I think I might have to wait until she is alone at the desk or when I catch her by herself. That way I will get a true answer on where she is at. If know one is around to listen but her and I, who knows what she has in mind. Agreed?

I also agree with shutting my mouth about a girl and not telling other guys. I have been c*ck blocked before. My boss is cool though, older married guy. I asked him on the DL he did say she lives with him.
Dude stop posting in this thread unless it's to update us on how the date went.

I'm serious...next f*cking post from you better be "Well I asked her out and she said yes/no".
 

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Never think about it just do it. For the future anytime you see a girl you find attractive just approach. The longer you wait the faster your chances diminish and you are also devoting time to a girl that could be spent on something else that is of greater benefit.


Guys think getting shut is bad thing but it actually is a way of finding someone more quickly.
 

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Ok so it's been about two weeks and I almost forgot about this Gym broad until today. I was getting a protein shake this morning and boom she was working at the front desk. She called me over and we had a 5 minute conversation about her traveling abroad to teach Yoga for two weeks etc. I flirted a bit, asked for her number. She handed me a piece of paper with her full name and phone number.

It was a real smooth transition.

She 100% has, and lives with a boyfriend. Thoughts on when I should hit her up to execute?? I honestly have never approached a chick that lived with a boyfriend so opinions would be great. Thanks bros!
 

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Just because she has a live in boyfriend doesn't mean she is exclusive. My current gf had a live in boyfriend when we first met. It wasn't serious and he was pretty afc with her. So I knew she was looking. Once we started getting serious guess what she broke her leasd with him and moved out. Funny isn't it. However girls in relatioship will be more a little more difficult then single chicks. You'tr not just trying woo her but also getting past her guilt with cheating even if she doesnt like the guy.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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KingBeef

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Ok so it's been about two weeks and I almost forgot about this Gym broad until today. I was getting a protein shake this morning and boom she was working at the front desk. She called me over and we had a 5 minute conversation about her traveling abroad to teach Yoga for two weeks etc. I flirted a bit, asked for her number. She handed me a piece of paper with her full name and phone number.

It was a real smooth transition.

She 100% has, and lives with a boyfriend. Thoughts on when I should hit her up to execute?? I honestly have never approached a chick that lived with a boyfriend so opinions would be great. Thanks bros!
In all honesty you are going way too slowly here....find out now if she wants to do something with you. Take her out already, escalate, have a great time, have drinks and make a bold move. Then you'll know if she "really likes" you.
 

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Just because she has a live in boyfriend doesn't mean she is exclusive. My current gf had a live in boyfriend when we first met. It wasn't serious and he was pretty afc with her. So I knew she was looking. Once we started getting serious guess what she broke her leasd with him and moved out. Funny isn't it. However girls in relatioship will be more a little more difficult then single chicks. You'tr not just trying woo her but also getting past her guilt with cheating even if she doesnt like the guy.

Dont you think she may do that to you as well? if thats the way she operates..? Maybe you just dont give a ****? lol.
 

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Dont you think she may do that to you as well? if thats the way she operates..? Maybe you just dont give a ****? lol.
I second that. There are women who use that approach ( live in bf or husband who pays bill and emotional support ) and have boyfriends outside the house for fun and just sex. You won't be expected to do much but hang out and hook up, the bf or husband takes care of them and supports them financially and emotionally.
 

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I'm going to blast you with some realism bro. She's just an attention wh0re and you keep feeding her. she lives with her bf like really.. u think shes gonna risk it to bang an average joe in a gym full of rich guys?

How many more attractive men than you do you think she sees a day in there?

how many does she talk to?

how many come running like puppies whenever she wants attention?

shes just getting ego strokes cuz shes bored at work. stop wasting your time and bang one of those hot moms or chicks who work out there instead

a front desk gym girl is like the most stereotypical attention wh0re job out there
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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