Dhoulmagus
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I don't want to get desperate and break nc, but the ugly fat girl is the only girl I can get.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Having sex with a girl you aren't attracted to
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Dhoulmagus
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I did, but I only do it once a day. Should I start doing it twice?pyros said:
hop On hop Off
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This is a bad advice. Please do not listen to this advice!pyros said:
Porn does not make you less desperate. It makes you more desperate. You need help with your mind set, you need re-frame.
You do not become alpha by watching porn. Alphas are busy and have goals. Being alpha takes work and persistence on that work.
Keep working on yourself. Never give up. Your hard work will pay back.
Instead keeping your mind busy of having sex all the time set goals and achive them.
start moving on with your life , go to the gym.... learn something new.
Listen- i just had a breakup one month ago with a w0hre... i was sad for two weeks. kept thinking about her and did nothing .
Said to myself , time to wake up- nothing comes up if i sat down and feel sorry for myself. started to go to the gym, eating a lot and got a bit stronger. invested in my job , reading book of pook , no more nice guy. moving to another apartment.
Do the things you want in your life , keep yourself busy and it will come.
Joe.
start moving on with your life , go to the gym.... learn something new.
Listen- i just had a breakup one month ago with a w0hre... i was sad for two weeks. kept thinking about her and did nothing .
Said to myself , time to wake up- nothing comes up if i sat down and feel sorry for myself. started to go to the gym, eating a lot and got a bit stronger. invested in my job , reading book of pook , no more nice guy. moving to another apartment.
Do the things you want in your life , keep yourself busy and it will come.
Joe.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Dgwizdal
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How fat we talkin?
Mike32ct
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Don't do it. She's like 20 to 30 percent bigger naked after she peels off the tight clothes
Dhoulmagus
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It will be about 3 hours round trip and she's crazy. Is sex worth it?
narcissist
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If she lived next door it wouldn't be worth it. Hell, I wouldn't travel 3 hours for anything less than a 9.5 or higher
VladPatton
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I wouldn't bang that with a rented dıck! Get a grip, man! Porn rulez, fatty droolz.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
_sideways_
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Every one does it secretly
SmooveMooves
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Bruh if your main goal is getting the puss, then that's your problem.
You don't have other interests? Responsibilities?
How about you focus on getting in shape, improving your career, finances, or chasing a passion.
Too many guys making puss 100% of there lives. Sex lasts on average 45 mins.
Its not about the 45 mins.
Its about what you have afterward.
You don't have other interests? Responsibilities?
How about you focus on getting in shape, improving your career, finances, or chasing a passion.
Too many guys making puss 100% of there lives. Sex lasts on average 45 mins.
Its not about the 45 mins.
Its about what you have afterward.
MillionBillionaire
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Go out.. hit the club.. do some cold approaches.. maybe you will get lucky and meet someone new.. if you fail.. then go home and do your thing to porn.. I would kill myself if I got an std or accidently fell in love with a fat chick.
RangerMIke
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I did this ONLY ONCE. I was in the Army and hooked up with my room mates girl friends, friend. They came back from a club... she was drunk off her ass, and feeling really insecure because some dudes were ignoring her at the club.
It actually turned out VERY well. To date, best BJ I ever got. She knew EXACTLY what it was, and honestly was very appreciative of the attention. We never did it again, and remained friends for years. I helped her develop into a women that was attactive, leveraged her positive aspects, worked out with her. Turned her into a women that men wanted.
Truth is it was one of the proudest moments of my life. She frequently would tell me that that night was the most significant moments of her life. I think about her more than all the one and done hooks I've ever had.
It actually turned out VERY well. To date, best BJ I ever got. She knew EXACTLY what it was, and honestly was very appreciative of the attention. We never did it again, and remained friends for years. I helped her develop into a women that was attactive, leveraged her positive aspects, worked out with her. Turned her into a women that men wanted.
Truth is it was one of the proudest moments of my life. She frequently would tell me that that night was the most significant moments of her life. I think about her more than all the one and done hooks I've ever had.
Mike32ct
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This.SmooveMooves said:
It's fine to get laid, but try not to make yourself a slave to the puss.
I know it's easier for me to say because I'm older and probably have a lower sex drive than you, but the point is the same.
You are giving these bytches way too much power over you.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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I guess I would consider it, but simply because I have more control these days. I can have the balls to say this is just sex and nothing more.
I'd be terribly afraid of leading an ugly woman on, and having to deal with her in the morning. Feeling horribly guilty and just being a bad person. But if you can make it clear that it's only a one-time thing, why not.
Certainly don't drive 3 hours man. You'll have to spend the night, wake up to her. Picture before you, she gets up and goes to the toilet, and you see her fat cellulite bum, she reeks of cold smoke and you think OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE - but you have to stay for lunch
If you must do it, make it a very clear one night stand.
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I'd be terribly afraid of leading an ugly woman on, and having to deal with her in the morning. Feeling horribly guilty and just being a bad person. But if you can make it clear that it's only a one-time thing, why not.
Certainly don't drive 3 hours man. You'll have to spend the night, wake up to her. Picture before you, she gets up and goes to the toilet, and you see her fat cellulite bum, she reeks of cold smoke and you think OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE - but you have to stay for lunch
If you must do it, make it a very clear one night stand.
Pic kind of related