"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Having Pride = Saying NEXT to a flakey chick?

spiegel549

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I have been experiencing and learning a lot over the past month and I am so glad I had a few recent girls flake on me. It really has been a great learning curve on what to do/not to do. They say you really only learn once you have experienced and went through it yourself. To me that couldn't be more true. Someone can give you the ultimate advice and game play to use, but until you go through it with trial/error and experience first hand what not to do, it won't sink in.

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My general question is this. I know a man has to keep his pride, and when you are dealing with a woman that you have been sleeping with, and she flakes on you, when do you pull the plug on her permanently? You have been having S_ex with her on/off, and all of a sudden she goes ghost. Are you throwing your pride out the window if you reach out to these women down the road to see if you can get another "hook up"?

When do you tell yourself, "Well I hit it 4 times already, enough is enough." (delete number) I know the worst thing you can do is come off as Desperate when you are looking to get laid.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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As a "wanted man" with options, you don't concern yourself with such things.

Let her get back to you and in the meantime, meet some new women.
 

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spiegel549 said:
You have been having S_ex with her on/off, and all of a sudden she goes ghost.

This is her cowardly way of telling you she doesn't like you. She doesn't respect you. She thinks you're a joke. You're not important to her.

Does that answer your question?
 

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Two flakes I think is more than enough. Go crawling back to her and you are setting yourself up for disappointment, rejection, and mental anguish.

I'd be happy with one bang, let alone four. You made out alright.
 

Who Dares Win

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Its not so much a matter of pride but effectivness, a girl which flakes 4 times will surely flake a 5th and a 6th and so on...

Ok now if we talk about pure effectiveness just limit yourself to invite her to your place so even if she flakes nothing changes since you would have been there anyway, but if we have to introduce pride well yeah cut her short.

Its not so much a matter of pride but of quality of life, such hit to your pride or self confidence in the long run decrease your quality of life.

Sure it could be a push to improve yourself, given that such negativity is kicked out in reasonable time..
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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This is the same girl that you've started a few threads about right?

The girl who stood you up in epic fashion when you drove all the way over to her house only for her to text you that she hadn't gotten over her ex???

My question here is: WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED???

Think of it like a used car.

You wouldn't very well get your hopes up about a used 89 Buick with a history of transmissions problems, faulty breaks, broken power steering etc...

The instruments on that car are likely to DETERIORATE not get better.

Before you purchase a car like that, you better get it down to as low as you can, not be invested in it at all and basically get as much use out of it before you get your big promotion-- and a new upgrade.

Same thing applies with this girl man.

Again, I ask, why are you surprised???

Say next! For real this time.
 

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NewAndImproved said:
This is the same girl that you've started a few threads about right?

The girl who stood you up in epic fashion when you drove all the way over to her house only for her to text you that she hadn't gotten over her ex???

My question here is: WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED???

Think of it like a used car.

You wouldn't very well get your hopes up about a used 89 Buick with a history of transmissions problems, faulty breaks, broken power steering etc...

The instruments on that car are likely to DETERIORATE not get better.

Before you purchase a car like that, you better get it down to as low as you can, not be invested in it at all and basically get as much use out of it before you get your big promotion-- and a new upgrade.

Same thing applies with this girl man.

Again, I ask, why are you surprised???

Say next! For real this time.
Love that analogy :up:
 

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^^ motion passed.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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LOL I love the bluntness. DONE. :up:


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