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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Here's an urgent to do list( aka a TODAY list)

- tell your father you appreciate him and everything he does. Tell him you are grateful you can stay at home.
- kick off from the garbage. Seek prof help.
- enforce this by going to the gym.
-get ANY kinda job. Save at least 30% .

Be honest: how much income do you waste in substances?

I expect that by tomorrow you set all of this in motion. Report back please.
And ? I expect you completed the list by now* AHUM*.

I feel like you're trolling us but more importantly YOURSELF. Imagine being your own biggest troll...

You make minimum wage BUT you also have minimum expenses;
-no girlfriend.
- no rent
- no hobbies
- no children

So assuming you indeed make minimum wage( 7,25 in the US IIRC) you would still have approx 1160 dollar, and if you don't b1tch out about " work life balance " ( which is for b1tchazz soyboys) and make 40 hours per week . All the thing mentiod above would be an INFINITE money pit. So you could make 3000 per month bit minus the costs of having those thing you would be WORSE off than you are now!

I feel like you are not about that life, and I do challenge you to prove me wrong...
 

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The booze and porn are bigger problems than weed.
I don't know man.

From what I see here, you could already be on your psychological limit and everyone, including myself, is bashing you for no reason.
Or you could be a total bum and a troll, wasting everyone's time.
It's hard to judge from an outside perspective.


Never tried any drugs to tell. I have barely even tried alcohol my whole life, since I never got the appeal.

What I know for sure is that porn is a massive problem. Yet it's very subtile.

Might be the elephant in the room. It would explain your mindset. (I can relate)

Have you tried stop watching porn AND stop fapping?

It's the one thing that wasn't already said yet in this thread so far.

Try to stop even thinking about porn. The second, you get hard for anything that isn't a real woman, you already lost. You lose energy you desperately need in other parts of your life.

Try to actually do it. No excuses. You will see 2-3 weeks in, and you will suddenly gain willpower you didn't even know you were capable of.


As for dating apps, I say doing approaches is probably better, even as a newbie. Never tried dating apps. But in the field, you don't have to wait for women's permission before saying anything. That appeals to me. Feels like the manly way, even if I still suck at it.

Just for the record, I also think "professional help" and "banging escorts" are stupid, no matter where you stand in life. Using this type of crutch will cripple any fundamental progress you could have made by yourself.
 

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Get your life together first. Worry about women once that is resolved.

Otherwise you are greatly limiting what you will be able to attract and wasting time focusing on things that don't matter.
 

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I haven’t been on the forum since late 2025 and thought I would revisit it. I’m now 33 and still struggling with dating, I have still never had a girlfriend or dated at all and I feel more hopeless about it with each passing year. Especially because inexperience is such a big turn off for women and I feel like I’m stuck in a catch-22 that I cannot escape from because I can only get experience by dating women, which I cannot do without having experience in the first place. This is a belief I’ve held onto since age 20 and all it’s done is make things worse.

Turning 32 last year was a key inflection point for me because at 16, I turned to drugs and alcohol because I felt that I would never be successful with women and wanted something to numb myself. At 32, the amount of years that I’ve been using that as a coping mechanism matched the age I was when I first started doing it and made me realize it has not worked and never did.

Then about exactly a year ago, I got kicked out of my parents house after getting into a fight with my dad. I ended up living in motels for 3 months before I came back home. I do not want to be living at home with my parents, but I’m living there by force of financial circumstance. I enrolled in college classes back in 2024 for vocational certifications in agriculture and I will have my certificates soon, then I hope my income will be high enough to leave my parents house for good.

Just wanted to share because I literally don’t have anyone in my life I can talk about these struggles with and I have talked about them here on the forum previously.
Keeping your head up man as long as you striving to do better every day, it may seem small but even slow motion is motion!
Times are tough I myself am trying to bounce back after a recent setback but we continue on
 

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Which state of The US do you currently reside in?
I don’t wanna dox myself by saying what state, but I do live in one of the major metros like I said and I have looked for the exact room and board living arrangement that you described here on more than one occasion and nothing like that is available here.
 

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And ? I expect you completed the list by now* AHUM*.

I feel like you're trolling us but more importantly YOURSELF. Imagine being your own biggest troll...

You make minimum wage BUT you also have minimum expenses;
-no girlfriend.
- no rent
- no hobbies
- no children

So assuming you indeed make minimum wage( 7,25 in the US IIRC) you would still have approx 1160 dollar, and if you don't b1tch out about " work life balance " ( which is for b1tchazz soyboys) and make 40 hours per week . All the thing mentiod above would be an INFINITE money pit. So you could make 3000 per month bit minus the costs of having those thing you would be WORSE off than you are now!

I feel like you are not about that life, and I do challenge you to prove me wrong...
Dude you say I’m trolling and yet you came back here in what, like 18-24 hours later expecting that list to be completed when you and I both know that your list can’t be completed in that short span of time. So you’re trolling me if anything lol. I do have hobbies, I never mentioned them here because I was never asked what my hobbies are. The other 3 things I don’t have obviously, but I will admit I need better spending habits. My hobbies do cost me money, but they aren’t a massive drain on my income. Like I said, I can admit that I need to fix my spending and saving habits, the bad economic conditions and high prices are having a negative effect too, but that’s happening to most people right now and not just me of course.
 

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sustainable agriculture and nursery crop production.
I've done a lot of both of those. I would guess the most in demand skills would be using AI and drones to reduce labor costs. The human hand is the last part of robots to be perfected. They can't pick fruit yet, because their sense of touch isn't fine enough. But someone will probably figure it out soon.
 

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What I know for sure is that porn is a massive problem. Yet it's very subtile.
It is a massive problem for me and it started out subtle, but has become less subtle as time went on.


It would explain your mindset. (I can relate)

Have you tried stop watching porn AND stop fapping?
I have noticed the negative effect it has had on my mindset, I have been addicted to it for 20 years now. I first got hooked on it when I was 12 back in 2006. Yes, I have tried stopping both multiple times. I have had clean streaks away from it that lasted for a decent amount of time, but they’ve unfortunately ended in relapses. What I need to work on is making sure a relapse is a one off thing if it happens and getting right back up on the horse to stay clean from it because too many times I’ve watched and fapped multiple times in the day the relapse happens because I’ve rationalized to myself that the day is a loss now anyway, might as well fap again and start fresh tomorrow. And there has been times where that turns into I’ll start next week fresh or even next month fresh, so I gotta make sure a relapse doesn’t turn into a binge.


The second, you get hard for anything that isn't a real woman, you already lost. You lose energy you desperately need in other parts of your life.

Try to actually do it. No excuses. You will see 2-3 weeks in, and you will suddenly gain willpower you didn't even know you were capable of.
That’s happened to me and it’s alarming, I’ve gotten hard to the idea of watching women have sex over me myself having sex with her, because porn can totally rewire your brain’s sexual responses to where you’re more aroused by being in third person and watching others have sex than you are by having sex yourself, there are porn addicts who have actually become cuckolds because of their porn addiction and I’ve worried about that happening to me. I have noticed a positive change in myself after just a week and a half clean from it, so it’s upsetting when I relapse. I actually bought a padlock and jar that both have timers and only unlock when the timer runs out in order to lock up my phone and laptop whenever I’m alone and porn becomes a temptation, I need to start using them more.


As for dating apps, I say doing approaches is probably better, even as a newbie. Never tried dating apps. But in the field, you don't have to wait for women's permission before saying anything. That appeals to me. Feels like the manly way, even if I still suck at it.
I mean I will say that I have zero rejection immunity since I’ve never actually been rejected by women and only feared it, and you develop rejection immunity by being rejected by women, so dating apps could be good because rejection happens so often and could get me used to being rejected and maybe I’ll get some first dates out of it and that will help with my lack of experience too. I think I would feel more comfortable approaching if I was to attend singles events or something like that where women are more receptive to being approached.

Just for the record, I also think "professional help" and "banging escorts" are stupid, no matter where you stand in life. Using this type of crutch will cripple any fundamental progress you could have made by yourself.
Thanks for saying that, I actually laughed a bit when the escorts in South America advice was given to me since that’s one of the most ridiculous pieces of advice I’ve ever heard lol.
 

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Get your life together first. Worry about women once that is resolved.

Otherwise you are greatly limiting what you will be able to attract and wasting time focusing on things that don't matter.
That is definitely something I’ve gathered from this thread. It was about everything going on in my life, not just dating. But I have noticed that my dating life has barely been mentioned since that’s less important than the other things.

I mean I guess I could try and get just some first dates to practice now since my lack of dating experience is a concern for me, but leave it at that. The fact that I live with my parents, don’t go to the gym, and low income definitely will limit what women would actually be willing to date me by a lot I’m sure. Not only that, but my dad is now retired and never leaves the house so there’s zero chance I could ever provide a private place for me and a girl to get physical, which means I would probably have to pay for a hotel when its my turn to provide a place and that would make dating more expensive for me too.
 

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@needimprovement250 brother, I don't think you're a troll, but it's painfully obvious why you're in the situation that you're in.

Nobody's talked about your dating life because it's very apparent why that sucks.

You're lazy, an alcoholic, a weed and p*rn addict, out of shape, underpaid, living with your parents, and fully reject the notion of growing a pair of balls and talking to women in person.

I vaguely remember you saying the last time you were with a woman was when you were in your 20s, and it was your therapist or something? I don't know how you're not disgusted enough with yourself to find the motivation to not be worthless.

No f***ing s*** your dating life sucks.

But the worst thing is that it doesn't suck ENOUGH, because if it did, you wouldn't be giving people excuses for why you can't do anything more than the bare minimum...all these suggestions from all these users, and the biggest commitment you've made is "I'll download the dating apps".

Congratulations man. You went into the App Store and tapped "Get". What an improvement...
 

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@needimprovement250 brother, I don't think you're a troll, but it's painfully obvious why you're in the situation that you're in.

Nobody's talked about your dating life because it's very apparent why that sucks.

You're lazy, an alcoholic, a weed and p*rn addict, out of shape, underpaid, living with your parents, and fully reject the notion of growing a pair of balls and talking to women in person.

I vaguely remember you saying the last time you were with a woman was when you were in your 20s, and it was your therapist or something? I don't know how you're not disgusted enough with yourself to find the motivation to not be worthless.

No f***ing s*** your dating life sucks.

But the worst thing is that it doesn't suck ENOUGH, because if it did, you wouldn't be giving people excuses for why you can't do anything more than the bare minimum...all these suggestions from all these users, and the biggest commitment you've made is "I'll download the dating apps".

Congratulations man. You went into the App Store and tapped "Get". What an improvement...
What happened to I’ll see you next year? Am I living rent free in your head so much to the extent that you couldn’t help but @ me again? Because I wasn’t even talking to you and was having more productive discussions with others on this thread, then you come back here just to take shots at me.

You must have an inferiority complex that’s so big that projecting like you did here makes you feel better about yourself. That makes you a weak, pathetic, and insecure little boy. Imagine telling someone who’s working 7 days a week day to night each day lazy lol, once again projecting out of insecurity.

You absolutely have the same amount of memory that a goldfish does, because I literally told you previously that I can go without a drink and would do so because its having a negative effect financially more than anything else. And can’t remember that I was with a girl who came onto me in my 20’s, she was never my therapist, maybe re-read what I said first before embarrassing yourself You clearly didn’t bother to read my read my long reply about my porn addiction to someone above and what I plan to do about it either.

I like how I outlined what I plan to do in order to fix my situation and made it clear that I am not complacent in my current situation, but yet your brain somehow cannot process that despite being told that more than once, or that I don’t want to waste my time on something with such a low success rate like cold approaching. Guess you also missed the part where I said that I would attend singles events where women are more receptive to being approached.

But yeah man even though I said that I’m working a lot and trying to launch a better paying career, fixing my diet to improve my physique, willing to attend singles events, willing to quit alcohol and porn, and dating apps too, that last one is all I’m willing to do. Maybe if you weren’t so slow, you’d realize that this reply wasn’t necessary…
 

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I've done a lot of both of those. I would guess the most in demand skills would be using AI and drones to reduce labor costs. The human hand is the last part of robots to be perfected. They can't pick fruit yet, because their sense of touch isn't fine enough. But someone will probably figure it out soon.
How did you like working in both of those? Yeah I have heard that AI is being utilized pretty significantly in the agricultural sector. That’s a scary thought for all human workers across all industries that one day AI could replace them, hopefully it doesn’t but sadly I wouldn’t be surprised if it does. I might also do a little bit of postgrad education into HVAC after my agriculture education is done too, both to have a backup and possibly combine the two because I could potentially work on installing and servicing HVAC systems for greenhouses at nurseries.
 

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Keeping your head up man as long as you striving to do better every day, it may seem small but even slow motion is motion!
Times are tough I myself am trying to bounce back after a recent setback but we continue on
Thanks man, I’m definitely striving to do better and appreciate what you said here! And you’re right, even slow motion is motion towards your goals and ambitions as long as you’re still actively working to achieve them. I wish you luck with trying to bounce back, setbacks sure suck but as long as we move on from them and keep going instead of letting it derail us completely, we’ll be good.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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What happened to I’ll see you next year? Am I living rent free in your head so much to the extent that you couldn’t help but @ me again?
I'm not even gonna read the rest of this reply, but I will answer your condescending question here:

It's because this thread is 4 pages long, and I'm required to read your bullsh** every time I check this website, since you reply multiple times and don't know how to multiquote, constantly bringing your excuses to the top of the forum.

If only you put as much effort into improving your life as you do into your replies.
 

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There an old sage maxim

“Never give advice.
The wise don’t need it
And fools don’t heed it”

I don’t get the point of these Game forums at all.

Every advice thread seems to go this way.
Is anyone here learning anything at all?? Or getting any better with women?? I highly doubt.

@needimprovement250
I’ll restate it what I said before , just go and pay for play.
An escort cannot cost $3K where you are. Nope, can’t believe that. That’s BS. It’ll be $1000-$1200 tops.
Go to a brothel and bang a few cheap h00kers that look acceptable to you.
Or fly to Las Vegas. $200-$300 there I’m sure x
There’s no excuse.

you’re situation is completely cooked mate.
You’re basically a sub5 smv male and you’re fvcked basically. It’s going to take years to improve for you.

check out this channel on YT and learn why. It has some brutal truths but better to accept the facts and live in reality. great channel.


Godspeed brother :rofl:
 

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I'm not even gonna read the rest of this reply, but I will answer your condescending question here:

It's because this thread is 4 pages long, and I'm required to read your bullsh** every time I check this website, since you reply multiple times and don't know how to multiquote, constantly bringing your excuses to the top of the forum.

If only you put as much effort into improving your life as you do into your replies.
You won’t read the rest because you’re chicken sh*t lol. No you’re not required, you could absolutely ignore my thread, go to others and reply to push mine further down, make threads of your own to push mine down, or block me. Many options at your disposal, you’re welcome.
 

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I’ll restate it what I said before , just go and pay for play.
An escort cannot cost $3K where you are. Nope, believe that. $1000-$1200 tops.
Go to a brothel and bang a few cheap h00kers that look acceptable to you.
Or fly to Las Vegas. $200-$300 there I’m sure x
There’s no excuse.
And I’ll restate what I said before, you gave the most idiotic BS advice I’ve ever been given on this forum or anywhere else. Telling me to go bang hookers in South America is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. And the fact that you’re doubling down shows how much common sense you lack. That $3K quote is from Las Vegas and I was just there last week, I would’ve done that last week if I was going to. But I’m not and never will.
you’re situation is completely cooked mate.
You’re basically a sub5 smv male and you’re fvcked basically. It’s going to take years to improve for you.
You don’t know wtf you’re talking about, but that’s no surprise because of the BS hookers advice you keep repeating. It will not take years as I’m close to starting a career, which will pay me more money and allow me to move out and also improving my physique with a better diet and then a gym routine. If that advice and sharing red pill content is all you’re capable of, then we know who’s cooked here….
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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