"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Have you or any other men you know actively friend zoned a woman temporarily?

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Have you or any other men you known actively friend zoned a woman that was pursuing them to put them on ice for a bit and later reactivated them for a relationship?

We always here of women putting men in a friend zone, but what about men putting women in the friend zone?

Say you had a woman showing a ton of interest, how long could you hold her off and then reactivate her for. Put her on ice for a while. I know its a risky move since women tend to have tons of options with guys.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I've never heard of this or observed this happening.
 

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Have you or any other men you known actively friend zoned a woman that was pursuing them to put them on ice for a bit and later reactivated them for a relationship?

We always here of women putting men in a friend zone, but what about men putting women in the friend zone?
I've done it many times when I was younger but as I've gotten older, I've learned that if I'm not interested in her right away, then it's best to just reject her and be done with it.
 

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I have orbiters, does that count?
I think so. To me there is a reason due to work or pending divorce why a man might want to keep a woman on hold and was wondering if actively friend zoning them would work
 

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I've friendzoned a few girls, but was never able to reactivate a sexual relationship with them. Once their ego's take a hit, that's it. They are fully aware of "friend zoning", unlike most men with little experince.

I've never heard of any guy pulling this off either.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Ricky

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I've friendzoned a few girls, but was never able to reactivate a sexual relationship with them. Once their ego's take a hit, that's it. They are fully aware of "friend zoning", unlike most men with little experince.

I've never heard of any guy pulling this off either.
i would have thought friend zoning them might make them want you more

its a little different than the preemptive breakup which supposedly has some power too
 

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i've tried it a couple times and it went horribly. one girl got upset with me for not holding/touching her when we were lying down on the beach. we had already fvcked before i friendzoned her btw. i think it can only work if you do it asap, like on the first meetup, but even then i don't think it will go over well. it might only work if you meet women through a social circle or something like that
 
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