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of your ethnicity? If so, tell us your story.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Have you ever been rejected because
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Been rejected by ethnicity many times before theirs like a strong barrier between ...nicaraguans(im from nicaragua) and cubans...I don't know why so when they ask me...I always say I will tell you later(come on don't do that..ha)....
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lol, I am Hispanic myself and I have never heard of this Nicaraguan/Cuban vendetta.
Someone Much cooler
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yeah im native american and afro-american, my boy is hatian and my other boy is puerto rican. We deal with it all the time @ college when we try to talk to the preppy white girls.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Viet/Asian here.
It's a little harder for minorities but not something you can't overcome with some work. It's mostly just an extra inner game issue a minority guy has to deal with. How big an issue it is, is entirely in the guy's head.
I thought it was race initially, but looking back now, it was mainly a lack of game. Sure there are some I bump into every now and then who simply wouldn't date anyone of my race, but I'm too busy with others who are open to it to give a sh!t.Tear Gas said:Have you guys proved for sure it was cause of your race or just a lack of game/attraction?
It's a little harder for minorities but not something you can't overcome with some work. It's mostly just an extra inner game issue a minority guy has to deal with. How big an issue it is, is entirely in the guy's head.
ready123
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Asian here too. Agree w/ jitterbug
Someone Much cooler
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actually i get proof all the time, i look @ the guys the date in the past, i look at the other guys they are attracted to, sometimes i slyly even ask em "u eva been wit a black guy b4" alotta times they respond, "I would look, but i would never do it". alot of it has to do with social standing and alot of it has to do wit what their fam might say and also how sheltered they are. It works out okay tho because im not usually attracted to most white women! i prefer black, spanish, asian or middle eastern, but have dated white women in the past.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
wutangfinancial said:I'm gonna tell you a secret:
white girls are very attracted to men of other races. Very. They just feel societal pressure not to date them, which secretly makes them more attracted. I know this from my sister.
This is true as hell. They get fantasies and stuff...especially about black guys...some white girls that is.
Ken785
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how do they feel about Asian guys? i know a couple of white girls that are totally into Asian...but those are far and few...wutangfinancial said:I'm gonna tell you a secret:
white girls are very attracted to men of other races. Very. They just feel societal pressure not to date them, which secretly makes them more attracted. I know this from my sister.
ready123
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I've met plenty of white and black girls who dig Asian guysKen785 said:how do they feel about Asian guys? i know a couple of white girls that are totally into Asian...but those are far and few...
Seriously, Asian guys aren't as emasculated as they were 10 years ago
nightcrawler
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I'm hispanic and can't attract anything:crazy:
I don't think it's my ethnicity though, it's my impression hispanic guys do quite well?
I don't think it's my ethnicity though, it's my impression hispanic guys do quite well?
DonGorgon
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Race is one of the biggest barriers in america and one of the issue that illicits the most hypocrisy hence why we cant get rid of the problem.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
qstorm501
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Umm you guys make too big of a deal about race ..if your a halfway decent looking guy and your game is tight you should have no problem pulling women OF ALL RACES!!
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^^^case in point.qstorm501 said:Umm you guys make too big of a deal about race ..if your a halfway decent looking guy and your game is tight you should have no problem pulling women OF ALL RACES!!
LostAndConfused
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I'm black, I ALWAYS get rejected because of my race. But its probably because they expect me to talk black but I enunciate and shyt so I don't sound black at all. They try to play it off as if its a lack of game, but really they want some guy with long hair that he flips all the dämn time haha. You know its really easy to say race doesn't matter when you're white.
Alot of charming black guys in my classes will point out an attractive white girl to me and they always say "Shes cute but she don't like black men"
Ironically though, wutang is right about girls fantasizing being with guys of different races. But when that comes to black guys, they are only attracted to the stereotypical black guy. (ie tall, strong, alpha, very athletic, etc. etc i could keep going on.)
My game is as tight as a stocking cap, but I get beat out with AFC pvssy long haired guys.
Not complaining though, I don't need pvssy, pvssy needs me.
Alot of charming black guys in my classes will point out an attractive white girl to me and they always say "Shes cute but she don't like black men"
Ironically though, wutang is right about girls fantasizing being with guys of different races. But when that comes to black guys, they are only attracted to the stereotypical black guy. (ie tall, strong, alpha, very athletic, etc. etc i could keep going on.)
My game is as tight as a stocking cap, but I get beat out with AFC pvssy long haired guys.
Not complaining though, I don't need pvssy, pvssy needs me.
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