"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Have any DJing or seduction techniques helped you find a relationship?

Have any DJing or seduction techniques helped you find a relationship?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 56.3%
  • No

    Votes: 5 31.3%
  • No, but I'm not interested in anything serious.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It is helping to enhance my current relationship.

    Votes: 2 12.5%

  • Total voters
    16

Dirtheart

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This poll is quite simple. I'm trying to work out whether the advice given on this board, the Bible or any other seduction sources (including DYD, The System, ASF, SS etc) has led anyone here into a steady relationship.

If so, I'd really like to know what specific areas/advice helped you.

(By "steady relationship" I don't mean flings, one night stands, FBs, dates or numbers).
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Caveman

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I never really had much trouble finding a relationship but this site has made me more aware of being the challenge, taking charge and not taking any bs. It also helped me cure my oneitis. It didn't get me into this relationship but it will make it a better quality one for the both of us.
 

Eternal

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This site has helped me.
 

Dirtheart

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I'm not trying to undermine DJing etc with this poll, I'm just interested to see what (if any) advice is most practical towards relationships.

DJing has helped me a lot with identifying my past mistakes, building my confidence and with flirting, but I'm starting to find a lot of advice is best avoided in a relationship, while some so-called AFC behaviour is actually beneficial.

I know it has been discussed before about splitting this board into sections for LTRs and PUAs or developing separate forums and I'm now starting to think that the distinction between the respective advice is highly important. I think a PUA's advice could ruin a relationship, while a LTR DJ's advice could lead to all sorts of trouble for a PUA.

For example, getting a woman to fall in love with you is all very good if you want a relationship with her, but this would surely be a PUA's nightmare.
 

Bonhomme

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What's helped me

What's helped me is the general stuff about the kind of impression to make: the importance of keeping a charismatic aura, keeping a cool head when things aren't going the way I want them to, and realizing that often what turns women on is not what they say they want.

The info on charisma from Dating Insider was instantly helpful, and the info from Double Your Dating -- especially the stuff other than the ****y & funny shtick -- has been helpful. There's much more to David D'Angelo's stuff than ****y & funny, and it's the reat of it that has been valuable for me, being one whose verbal finesse is inconsistent.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Lifeforce

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In the beginning it was very helpful to have something to rely on, wheter it was SS, canned lines, playing jerk or whatever. Now I don't use any techniques I am myself and use my own style to get women. I believe that using techniques will force you to use them all the time you are together and I don't want to fake it so my answer is no. The only thing I use now is ADs stuff. 'Cause it can be used to get ONS or LTR and I wouldn't consider this a technique, just some common sense.
 
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