Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Have any DJing or seduction techniques helped you find a relationship?

Have any DJing or seduction techniques helped you find a relationship?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 56.3%
  • No

    Votes: 5 31.3%
  • No, but I'm not interested in anything serious.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It is helping to enhance my current relationship.

    Votes: 2 12.5%

  • Total voters
    16

Dirtheart

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This poll is quite simple. I'm trying to work out whether the advice given on this board, the Bible or any other seduction sources (including DYD, The System, ASF, SS etc) has led anyone here into a steady relationship.

If so, I'd really like to know what specific areas/advice helped you.

(By "steady relationship" I don't mean flings, one night stands, FBs, dates or numbers).
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Caveman

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I never really had much trouble finding a relationship but this site has made me more aware of being the challenge, taking charge and not taking any bs. It also helped me cure my oneitis. It didn't get me into this relationship but it will make it a better quality one for the both of us.
 

Eternal

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This site has helped me.
 

Dirtheart

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I'm not trying to undermine DJing etc with this poll, I'm just interested to see what (if any) advice is most practical towards relationships.

DJing has helped me a lot with identifying my past mistakes, building my confidence and with flirting, but I'm starting to find a lot of advice is best avoided in a relationship, while some so-called AFC behaviour is actually beneficial.

I know it has been discussed before about splitting this board into sections for LTRs and PUAs or developing separate forums and I'm now starting to think that the distinction between the respective advice is highly important. I think a PUA's advice could ruin a relationship, while a LTR DJ's advice could lead to all sorts of trouble for a PUA.

For example, getting a woman to fall in love with you is all very good if you want a relationship with her, but this would surely be a PUA's nightmare.
 

Bonhomme

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What's helped me

What's helped me is the general stuff about the kind of impression to make: the importance of keeping a charismatic aura, keeping a cool head when things aren't going the way I want them to, and realizing that often what turns women on is not what they say they want.

The info on charisma from Dating Insider was instantly helpful, and the info from Double Your Dating -- especially the stuff other than the ****y & funny shtick -- has been helpful. There's much more to David D'Angelo's stuff than ****y & funny, and it's the reat of it that has been valuable for me, being one whose verbal finesse is inconsistent.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Lifeforce

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In the beginning it was very helpful to have something to rely on, wheter it was SS, canned lines, playing jerk or whatever. Now I don't use any techniques I am myself and use my own style to get women. I believe that using techniques will force you to use them all the time you are together and I don't want to fake it so my answer is no. The only thing I use now is ADs stuff. 'Cause it can be used to get ONS or LTR and I wouldn't consider this a technique, just some common sense.
 
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