Have you ever travelled???Espi said:Andre:
America is as good as it gets, compared to the vast majority of the world.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Have you ever travelled???Espi said:Andre:
America is as good as it gets, compared to the vast majority of the world.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Well like I said before, this is an internet discussion forum, so I just don't give a $hit!!!!Cure said:56andre, The VERY valid point you are trying to make, is undermined significantly by your attitude and spelling/grammar.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You pretty much defined my OP, I said it’s ok if you have complete conviction like oxygen or water, same goes for food, should have put food & water!!! Fvck it!Espi said:--A girl I know who immigrated from Russia told me that most of the grocery stores there stock VERY limited food supplies...you are lucky to choose what you can eat. In Russia, you eat what's available. Therefore, I've never once complained about having to shop at an American chain grocery store...I'm very happy and consider it a luxury to live in the USA, where I have NEVER worried about food being scarce.
Have you ever considered that Australia is the driest continent in the world??? Why have a dryer?--My ex-GF's sister lived in Australia...she told me that very few households there own dryers...
Well education should be a right, not a privilege, its ridicules the amounts of money you need if you want a degree in college.and very few can CHOOSE to attend college...
SpiritualEspi said:And define "spiritual" please? I've yet to have anyone define this word sufficiently.
You posted earlier that you like to keep things "black and white." You're getting very gray here...i.e. "spiritual apex."
J. Darko said:Tell me, how can you get out of the routine going to work every day? How else could you get the money to buy food? I don't work yet, but yes, it does sound like a nightmare to have a 9 to 5 job, but what is the alternative? Being a homeless beggar?
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
56andre said:Have you ever travelled[sic]???
Espi said:Respectfully: why don't you try defining the word on your own terms rather than someone else's?
Da Realist said:I mean, you have basically kicked the table over, but what's the follow up? Are you ready to give everything away you have to the homeless on the streets? Are you going to stop going out to eat since it's only because of your priveledged position in the world that you have the oppurtunity to do so when you want? All I say is that its really easy to show contempt for things, but it's a different matter to do anything about it.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Worse than having a gun to my head, I have to hear every single company that advertises on television have their own rendition of some Christmas carol or song that I used to like when I was a kid. Makes me want to slam a couple of one ounce slugs into my 46 inch flatscreen.Veridin said:Blah blah, the EVIL capitalists hypnotize you and force you to buy things. They hold a gun to your head.
Be an independent affiliate, be a good salesman, make your own hours by being good at something that is a niche and specializing in it. Do so good at your 9-5 for 2 years that you get a telecommuting proposal approved, where you can now do your job from home for 2 weeks out of the month. Have more time and less commute, become even more productive and specialized in the niche because you are able to work when you want to during the day, or until 2 in the morning if you like.J. Darko said:I don't work yet, but yes, it does sound like a nightmare to have a 9 to 5 job, but what is the alternative? Being a homeless beggar?
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.