"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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So this girl in my school told me she likes me, admitted to being interested so we started talking and things went well.

Until i tried to kiss her, she turned her cheek? But couple days later she kisse's me. Am I doing something wrong. I tried kissing her again after she kissed me days later but she still turned her cheek. Not sure what to do. Although she's fine with me grabbing her butt or her thighs. She's a freak too in a good way.

Any advice on what my next move should be?
Should I stop trying to kiss her, go ghost?

Thanks sosuave bro's
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Chicks are emotional, one minute they can't help themselves and MUST kiss you, later they just aren't feeling it.

Just let her come to you feed off her behavior and when she is in the mood just escalate.
 

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Chicks are emotional, one minute they can't help themselves and MUST kiss you, later they just aren't feeling it.

Just let her come to you feed off her behavior and when she is in the mood just escalate.
Alright, I'll just keep grabbing her butt, won't attempt to even kiss her. You'd think if she lets you grab her butt, she should let you kiss her lol. But oh well
Thanks for the advice!
 

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Chicks are emotional, one minute they can't help themselves and MUST kiss you, later they just aren't feeling it.

Just let her come to you feed off her behavior and when she is in the mood just escalate.
And by feed off her behaviour you mean like if she makes a move make a move?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Alright, I'll just keep grabbing her butt, won't attempt to even kiss her. You'd think if she lets you grab her butt, she should let you kiss her lol. But oh well
Thanks for the advice!
I wouldn't be grabbing her butt... unless she is doing this to you... then it's okay. That could end you up in jail. Even if she says she likes it, if you do it in public and someone sees this she could turn this on you and now you are guilty of sexual assault, and you have a sex offender label the rest of your life.

Just wait for her to come to you, she already likes you, just stop coming at her like a horny goat. She touches you, touch her back. She kisses you, kiss her back a little longer.

You are getting too frustrated with her... the best thing to do is back off a little and go after other chicks. Don;t spend too much time worrying about what this one chick is doing or not doing.
 

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I wouldn't be grabbing her butt... unless she is doing this to you... then it's okay. That could end you up in jail. Even if she says she likes it, if you do it in public and someone sees this she could turn this on you and now you are guilty of sexual assault, and you have a sex offender label the rest of your life.

Just wait for her to come to you, she already likes you, just stop coming at her like a horny goat. She touches you, touch her back. She kisses you, kiss her back a little longer.

You are getting too frustrated with her... the best thing to do is back off a little and go after other chicks. Don;t spend too much time worrying about what this one chick is doing or not doing.
Yeah she grabs my butt, and tells me I have a big butt (I squat heavy) she kissed me again Today.
 

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She tried giving me the cheek then I teased with "what are you like 10 than I backed away"
 

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She's playing. Have fun and play back. Be cool, calm, and don't take things so serious. Date other women, spin plates...
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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That's weird. I don't think she's playing. Bad breath maybe? Her or you? May sound funny but it's possible, esp if she sometimes kisses you and sometimes doesn't.

It could just be that simple.
 

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She's playing. You should be enjoying this, man. It's all this wishy washy feminine energy. Play with her, dance with her. When she kisses you next time, you turn the cheek!
 

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Next time she tries kissing you give her your cheek.
HAHAHAHAAHHAHA we said the same thing LOL I literally did not see your comment and I wrote mine and then the page refreshed and I see we have the same comment LOL
 

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How many 'other guys' does she like?

What happened to 'screening', guys?

chick could be psycho!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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get her out on a date, isolate and escalate
 

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She's playing. You should be enjoying this, man. It's all this wishy washy feminine energy. Play with her, dance with her. When she kisses you next time, you turn the cheek!
Well played, thanks for the tip!
 
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