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Has anyone read Heartiste's book?

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Is his book well put together?? I figure it's worth having even for that price.
Great book, well worth getting. It’s basically his blog posts, spanning several years, condensed into a book. There’s tons of content, a lot on female nature and why they like jerks so much.
 

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I read his blog during its peak, before he became obsessed with politics. He's a clever writer (and very funny) but I take his material with a huge grain of salt.
 

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take his material with a huge grain of salt.
Why the grain of salt? I mean it’s heavy anti-nice guy tactics for sure and you could come across as an ******* with some of the content. But everything in moderation, there’s plenty of gems in that book.
Definitely worth reading.
 

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Why the grain of salt? I mean it’s heavy anti-nice guy tactics for sure and you could come across as an ******* with some of the content. But everything in moderation, there’s plenty of gems in that book.
Definitely worth reading.
I agree, if it's basically his peak blog material, I'm sure it's smart stuff. One thing I've noticed is that all of classic RP writers eventually become ensconced in their way of thinking, though. They start out asking a lot of questions, which is great, but eventually they become attached to their worldviews and attack others'. I often wonder if it's a byproduct of gaining a huge following. Because for instance, I'm far less headstrong than I was 10-15 years ago, and I question a lot more and I don't feel threatened by other opinions. But I'm not writing books. Plus Heartiste's writings (and his readership/commenters) became more and more white supremacist over the years, which really is not my cup of tea at all. At some point he barely wrote about seduction any more. His comments on sexual abuse were also not my thing.

This is why I think the best writer was a guy nobody remembers: LaidNYC. He had a blog and a Twitter account for maybe 2 or 3 years, not sure. When he felt he'd said all he had to say, which he said in a mostly sober tone, he shut both down and moved on.
 

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Great book. Heartiste is one of the best redpill writers I'd say. Many of his theories and concepts have stuck with me and definitely helped me to improve my understanding of Game.
 

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Heartiste's writings (and his readership/commenters) became more and more white supremacist over the years, which really is not my cup of tea at all.
Yeah I read that he seemed to lose the plot later on, but the book is based on his earlier blogs, seduction and female nature, a lot of gold in there!
 

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Yeah I read that he seemed to lose the plot later on, but the book is based on his earlier blogs, seduction and female nature, a lot of gold in there!
He actually sold his blog to White Nationlist writers and the blog shifted focus to Jews. Roissy actually got doxxed by a woman and sold his Heartiste blog sometime in 2012-2014
 

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He actually sold his blog to White Nationlist writers and the blog shifted focus to Jews. Roissy actually got doxxed by a woman and sold his Heartiste blog sometime in 2012-2014
That’s interesting to know, I wonder how old he is?
 

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That’s interesting to know, I wonder how old he is?
By now I'd guess late 40's, early 50's.

He was a New Yorker writing about women in ultra-hypergamous markets like NYC, so his Game advice is calibrated towards competing in really difficult markets where women are ruthless Hos. That's why his tactics are ultra aggressive and ultra manipulative.
 

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What jumped out at me was his understanding of female psychology, very cynical. Definitely a master puppeteer.
 

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What jumped out at me was his understanding of female psychology, very cynical. Definitely a master puppeteer.
He's just a realist. My experiences with women confirm everything that Heartiste wrote to be true. Women are actually the master puppeteers and men are just playing catch-up.
 

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He's a clever writer (and very funny) but I take his material with a huge grain of salt.
Agree. I was never a fan. I always though he was a little too over the top and was too hardcore with the jerk game stuff.
But a lot of people liked him. As you say, grain of salt. Or maybe a heap.
 

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Just to touch on this again briefly, I had a thought, I kept reading more and more and more seduction material.

It got to the point where I felt enough was enough, just wanted one or two books to return to periodically.

Chateau Heartiste & Book of Pook where those two books (both a collection of posts ironically).
Wondered how you guys think they compare? Pook feels positive, Heartiste darker. But I think they compliment each other pretty well.
 

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Just to touch on this again briefly, I had a thought, I kept reading more and more and more seduction material.

It got to the point where I felt enough was enough, just wanted one or two books to return to periodically.

Chateau Heartiste & Book of Pook where those two books (both a collection of posts ironically).
Wondered how you guys think they compare? Pook feels positive, Heartiste darker. But I think they compliment each other pretty well.
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