"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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has a woman ever done this to you?

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say a woman flakes on you out of the blue. like youve been talking for awhile and everything seemed to be going great, then you wakeup oneday to find out you're on her ignore list all of a sudden for reasons unknown. you try to find out but to no avail, she ignores you, won't tell you. so you next and move on. then you bump into her oneday and it comes up and she gives you a reason you know isnt true, like "you got mad at me" or some other reason that just baffles you. thinking back to all the conversations you had with her you dont remember ever getting into an argument with her, its like she dreamed this whole reason up in her head, yet theres nothing you can do to change it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I would have played along with it, but more along the lines of...

"I was just mad at myself, I couldn't believe that I had lowered my standards."


So did she flake on you before an actual date. Or what happened?
And btw, of course she made up an excuse... did you think she was going to acknowledge the situation?

Women will never own up to the crap they have done, and in what was a very sh!tty move, she actually pinned it on YOU.

Actually, my response might have changed to:

"Thank you, I knew there was a reason why we should never go out, and you just gave me that reason."




EDIT: JLay is right. My responses are total crap, to be honest.
But the basics are still the same on why she MADE Up the reason for YOU not talking to HER.
 

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You can try speaking your position but it wouldn't get you very far; after all, if she actually cared what you thought she would have asked instead of just straight up blocking you. The simple answer is that for whatever reason (and it doesn't matter, and shouldn't matter to you) she doesn't want to talk to you or know you anymore, so just move on.

Kailex said:
I would have played along with it, but more along the lines of...

"I was just mad at myself, I couldn't believe that I had lowered my standards."


So did she flake on you before an actual date. Or what happened?
And btw, of course she made up an excuse... did you think she was going to acknowledge the situation?

Women will never own up to the crap they have done, and in what was a very sh!tty move, she actually pinned it on YOU.

Actually, my response might have changed to:

"Thank you, I knew there was a reason why we should never go out, and you just gave me that reason."
Dude I wouldn't even go that route. Yeah, it's a sh!tty move, but saying something like that to her not only shows your insecurity about it (that she actually got to you) but also is entirely unnecessary. I mean what's the point of saying something like that? Why project negativity needlessly?

The reasoning behind her doing this could be anything; hell, she might even have a legit reason to do it. But regardless, I just don't see the point of projecting negativity in your life if you don't have to. Negativity just breeds more negativity, which is ultimately damaging to your consciousness and your self. Just be nice and respectful to her if you ever run into her and leave it at that.
 

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Robert28 said:
say a woman flakes on you out of the blue. like youve been talking for awhile and everything seemed to be going great, then you wakeup oneday to find out you're on her ignore list all of a sudden for reasons unknown. you try to find out but to no avail, she ignores you, won't tell you. so you next and move on. then you bump into her oneday and it comes up and she gives you a reason you know isnt true, like "you got mad at me" or some other reason that just baffles you. thinking back to all the conversations you had with her you dont remember ever getting into an argument with her, its like she dreamed this whole reason up in her head, yet theres nothing you can do to change it.
lol this happened to me before. I ended up hanging out with another girl that night. Later on she send me a message through email saying sorry blah blah blah. I just said dont worry about it, i hung out with someone else. They come out of no where with this sh*t sometimes but whatever, their loss.
 

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Oh and BTW I've done this to girls before. Sometimes if I'm not interested I'll just cut contact completely because it's stupid for me to have to explain that I'm not interested in being friends with them.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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JLay87 said:
Oh and BTW I've done this to girls before. Sometimes if I'm not interested I'll just cut contact completely because it's stupid for me to have to explain that I'm not interested in being friends with them.
Your a Jerk JLay lol nah j/k ive done it too but felt bad. I stood this girl up one time, didnt really mean to as i lost track of time but she ended up callin me crying. then proceeded to say she might love me? eh... that was the end of that.
 

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Your a Jerk JLay lol nah j/k ive done it too but felt bad. I stood this girl up one time, didnt really mean to as i lost track of time but she ended up callin me crying. then proceeded to say she might love me? eh... that was the end of that.
I only do it to girls that LJBF me or do something really ****ty. Those situations don't warrant an explanation whatsoever to the girl; it should be completely obvious to them.
 

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i never went out with this girl. she was a single/recently divorced mom i met at a friends party, we exchanged numbers and talked for a couple of days then she was never to be heard from again all of a sudden. i have a good memory and i think i would remember getting mad at someone, or at least the reason i got mad at them to begin with. she didnt say what i got mad about, she just said i got mad at her and she thought i seemed "aggressive" and it "kinda scared her".lol I DON'T REMEMBER ANY OF THIS! im not the agressive type for one, and for two no other girl has ever mentioned this to me at all. i think this chick has me confused with someone else and shes probably thinking the guy that did treat her this way is just oh so sweet, and im apparently the jerk and i never did anything!haha
 
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