"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Harridan laments: The TRUTH about ENDING UP ALONE as You Age

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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All she says is true, and people should be aware these circumstances happen and might be in store for them.

With that said, there’s a certain appeal to these misery channels. Several Manosphere channels are misery channels.
 

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I don't see her as a harridan as such. To me, that's just an older woman dispensing some sobering advice and guidance. Admittedly, it's a bleak picture she paints but, to be fair, what she describes isn't that unusual.
 

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I don't see her as a harridan as such. To me, that's just an older woman dispensing some sobering advice and guidance. Admittedly, it's a bleak picture she paints but, to be fair, what she describes isn't that unusual.
Exactly. It’s some honest advice for both women and men.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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It's also much more common to have this phenomenon in the US. The US has particularly weak family and social ties overall. Especially for all of the deracinated immigrants that are here with 1 or 2 familiy members
 

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Relationships are there by circumstance, blood ties, opportunism.
It is up to us to create relationships that are based on a genuine desire to be together and create a special moment of connection with someone.
 

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Its your life, nobody but you is responsible for it once you are an adult. In this responsibility you are alone and cant rely on others to make your life a good one.

Do your best to be as healthy, wealthy and independent as you can. You can invite others to walk a part of your life together but in the end you are in this alone and no matter how many friends or family you have, you will most likely die without them being around.

Read this:


 
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I don't see her as a harridan as such.
She is a harridan. She never married and had no children. She mentioned that in the video. That was somewhat uncommon in her age bracket, as I'm guessing she's about 60-70.

She didn't have as much of an opportunity to ride the penis carousel decades ago before the internet. Unless she was a groupie for top musicians in those days (seems unlikely), she likely didn't put up a big notch count.
 

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I do not know this woman's history, but there's wisdom in what she states in the video. If you have children but you paid too much attention to money instead of them, there's decent chance they will put you into nursing home or some institution.

However, if you don't have children, rest assured that your extended family members will be interested in putting you into nursing home if you are well off and unable to take care of yourself.

Being old and alone is not a funny part of life.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Do your best to be as healthy, wealthy and independent as you can. You can invite others to walk a part of your life together but in the end you are in this alone and no matter how many friends or family you have, you will most likely die without them being around
Be the captain of the ship, and have a staff or passengers to share the journey with.
 

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Use to work as a salesman for a Supplement/Vitamin company whose main customers were 50 and older.
There were a few old people who would just buy shyt from me, because I called them and to talk and shoot the shyt
There are a lot of lonely elderly people out there, my heart goes out to them. They tend to get targeted by sales companies and scammers the most.

One thing about older people that I love is, they don't give a shyt and will tell you how it is. Some of them are uncouth but some of them are funny. There is a lot of wisdom and truth if you listen, to this lady as well.
 

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You are born alone and you will die alone. Your friends and family aren’t coming with you or can’t ease the physical pain when it’s your time to go.

If you think being in a relationship when you’re old will help cure loneliness think again. Most old couples I see appear to just be sleepwalking through life and getting on each other’s nerves. I don’t see much desire or affection. Hardly something to be fearful of.
 

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Hi Jhonny,
"Be the Captain of the ship, and have a staff or passengers to share the journey with.".....Wisdom from the mouth of babes...Probably not possible in the Western World....In the recent past,I stayed in the home of a remarkable Chinese Gentleman who lived,happily,to 110 years of age...He was a wealthy Man in a Country where Labour could be bought for not much more than Board and Lodging...His Children got their degrees and found new lives in the West.....His answer to problems of loneliness...He employed a live in Cook and her Husband who became his Valet,companion,in addition there was a Day working young married Lady he called his Manageress,she did the shopping and ordered the household....Every day he would toddle off to his office at the University maybe a quarter of a mile away attend to his mail,tutorials and meet with Students and Staff...So much as you suggest he had his Family and Community where he felt a sense of usefullness.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I do not know this woman's history, but there's wisdom in what she states in the video. If you have children but you paid too much attention to money instead of them, there's decent chance they will put you into nursing home or some institution.

However, if you don't have children, rest assured that your extended family members will be interested in putting you into nursing home if you are well off and unable to take care of yourself.

Being old and alone is not a funny part of life.
I guess it's a lot harder for women since a man at that age could easily get a caretaker wife ... or maybe the Golden Girls will still be hypergamic at that stage of life? :mad:
 

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I guess it's a lot harder for women since a man at that age could easily get a caretaker wife ... or maybe the Golden Girls will still be hypergamic at that stage of life? :mad:
Actually, a lot of older women (around 60-65) still have sexual needs and any guy up for satisfying them may have "rotation" as a lot of older guys loose interest in sex or their long-term female partner very often. If it's about women older than that - they obviously still enjoy male company but probably not to the caretaker level (I think at 70+ both females and males still prefer to date non-disabled/rather healthy partners and due to various reasons - including fear of death - they may be prone to quickly leaving any new partner which succumbs to sickness or may succumb to it in a mid-to-short time period, they will also leave partners with signs of dementia as it scares them off - it is probably not ghosting but efficient loosing ties before worst part happen). Gold diggers don't care about terminal sickness (actually they are counting on it) therefore guys with financial assets will always have a choice.
 

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Most old couples I see appear to just be sleepwalking through life and getting on each other’s nerves. I don’t see much desire or affection. Hardly something to be fearful of.
This point could be an entire discussion.

It is fair to say that if you are friends with a woman and you feel good with her, that is a really good relationship, regardless of sex.

I see many couples who are solid and smiling, who do not argue and who do not have sex very often. Yet they do not have all the drama of those other couples who are forced to stay together for "the kids" or for "the commitment".

Friendship with a woman is the basis of any genuine relationship that can last long-term.
Never mind "friend zone"
Probably not possible in the Western World
Not possible, but You can live with that structure in mind and fear nothing or no one.
 
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