sodbuster
Master Don Juan
Tell you the same thing I told my sons... "it's STANDARD equipment,not an option... ALL women have one,hers isn't special"
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Hard trek to the altar
- Thread starter slowhand
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Scaramouche
Master Don Juan
Dear Slowhand,
I think you are a Journalist,and probably female?
I think you are a Journalist,and probably female?
Scaramouche
Master Don Juan
Dear Sodbuster,
"Tell you the same thing I told my sons... "it's STANDARD equipment,not an option... ALL women have one,hers isn't special" You are precious!!!
"Tell you the same thing I told my sons... "it's STANDARD equipment,not an option... ALL women have one,hers isn't special" You are precious!!!
slowhand
New Member
UPDATE: Of course, Peg is a Facebook addict. I recently gave her a challenge to make some commitment to me: to apply for jobs in LA and the like. I ignored her calls for a few days, waiting for her to leave a phone message about her job search. Instead, she posted (visible to the public) that I should change my status to "single," and her page shows that she joined a dating app.
In my opinion, the time she devoted to cheating could just as easily have been spent applying for jobs in LA. I drove to Sacramento to have it out with her. She wouldn't accept any compromise. She wants to be free to hook up with random pricks. So be it.
I drink myself into oblivion. It'll be a wonder if I pass any of my classes. But it's over and can't ever be fixed.
In my opinion, the time she devoted to cheating could just as easily have been spent applying for jobs in LA. I drove to Sacramento to have it out with her. She wouldn't accept any compromise. She wants to be free to hook up with random pricks. So be it.
I drink myself into oblivion. It'll be a wonder if I pass any of my classes. But it's over and can't ever be fixed.
sodbuster
Master Don Juan
WHY for the love of God would you want to "fix" this? You just got rid of a major pain in the azz that I wouldn't allow in my life for any longer than it took to bang her[IF she was lucky to last that long]
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Buddha_Mind
Master Don Juan
Brother,
Do not destroy yourself over a woman!
It's not worth it!
We've all felt it!
The better question to ask: Why don't you think you deserve better than this crazy bi.tch!?
Do not destroy yourself over a woman!
It's not worth it!
We've all felt it!
The better question to ask: Why don't you think you deserve better than this crazy bi.tch!?
Kailex
Master Don Juan
Wait a second, you are going to drink yourself into a frenzy over this "woman"? I thought you were 53, where are your balls, man?slowhand said:
Why would you want to ever fix this?
Life has given you EVERY single chance and sign to get OUT of this relationship and you have chosen to NOT see the signs every single time. This thread reminds me of the drowning man waiting for God to save him from the ocean.
Dude, if you want to drink, drink because you are CELEBRATING.
IT'S OVER.
THIS IS A GOOD THING.
But to come on here and say you are going to flunk classes because of a woman?
I had a friend like that... he flunked his classes because he was depressed over some chick that dumped him for a guy 5 times his alpha... and then he screwed up his GPA and then there were other consequences to that... too many to list.
Don't screw up your life just when it's going to START getting better.
What do you gain by drinking yourself over this chick and then flunking some classes, to boot?
MAN THE EFF UP.
iqqi
Master Don Juan
This guy is a male BPD, easy to read.
Sad situation. He sounds like a girl, very extremely over dramatic and fatalistic about something that is quite obvious.
Sad situation. He sounds like a girl, very extremely over dramatic and fatalistic about something that is quite obvious.
lifeislearning
Don Juan
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Wow OP, guess I won't jump on the shared (and mutual) consensus that a relationship with this woman is an unwise decision.
I will however share a circumstance of mine. Cindy and I had a hurtful and immature relationship when we were just two dumb inexperienced kids. We said we were in love, in retrospect we were obsessed with each other, and no amount of agony, self-inflicted or otherwise, could change our minds.
Fast forward through a crushing breakup, failed attempts on both parts to woo the other, and finally, a year without contact. We met to exchange some old things and started dating again but this time, lo and behold, things were different. Not just better, but great! Easily one of the best relationships of my life.
Why? What was different?
Answer: 3 simple things. 1-We had both dated and not found the same desirable traits we sought in a partner. 2-We had matured considerably and learned a great deal about ourselves and how to keep a relationship healthy. 3-We BOTH wanted to be better, as individuals and as a couple, than we had been before.
Does your potential relationship have these 3 qualities? From what you say, I think no, but I don't know you, you tell me.
I will however share a circumstance of mine. Cindy and I had a hurtful and immature relationship when we were just two dumb inexperienced kids. We said we were in love, in retrospect we were obsessed with each other, and no amount of agony, self-inflicted or otherwise, could change our minds.
Fast forward through a crushing breakup, failed attempts on both parts to woo the other, and finally, a year without contact. We met to exchange some old things and started dating again but this time, lo and behold, things were different. Not just better, but great! Easily one of the best relationships of my life.
Why? What was different?
Answer: 3 simple things. 1-We had both dated and not found the same desirable traits we sought in a partner. 2-We had matured considerably and learned a great deal about ourselves and how to keep a relationship healthy. 3-We BOTH wanted to be better, as individuals and as a couple, than we had been before.
Does your potential relationship have these 3 qualities? From what you say, I think no, but I don't know you, you tell me.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
sodbuster
Master Don Juan
He's in his 50's. She's in her 30's. think they should have grown up by now. Can't see it working.