I have had numerous women tell me that guys want to message back and forth and they never get around to asking them out on OLD. Are these bishes lying? Who are these men they speak of? Dudes just looking for validation? say it aint so!
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Guys on OLD who who have text conversations and never ask a woman out
- Thread starter Mazer
- Start date
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Skyline
Master Don Juan
You really should chit chat back and forth.
The last thing you want is a date with a boring girl. You save more time and money by talking for a bit first.
i do it often because when i have a date then they make some chit up ("uhh u look different than on pic") and therefore i barely go on a date. i also need my haircut done or they will complain/run, - what i am supposed to do, run to hairdresser for some bish? lul. so i simply text with them for pleasure.
marmel75
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Not if you are looking to bang. Complete waste of time.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
marmel75
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Thats pretty weak. If you don't look like yoir pics then put some pics up that you do look like. Wear a hat on the date then if you don't want to cut your hair.
When I was using OLD frequently I used to wear a backwards baseball cap. It probably doubled my lay rate. They loved it...maybe they took it as a bad boy signal or that i just didn't give a crap but I got more ass than a toilet seat when I started doing it.
But it went with my persona, if that's not you in date then it will come off wrong.
resilient
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I'll do that if they live 60-100+ miles away.
For me, it doesn't make sense to waste time talking and then try to logistically find a middle spot to hang. What if I drove half way and she was a no show or had lukewarm IL at best?
Recent Example:
Last month, I exchanged messages back forth with a woman for a few days that lived nearly 2 hours away. I tried to set up a beach day which she shifted to a dinner date. She set up a phone call the next night to see how we got along. She pushed back the call time an hour when she missed the call time. That lowered my IL because she wasn't respecting my time and value.
My mistake in retrospect was allowing her to keep me on the phone too long so she lost interest. This chick bragged that 50 guys messaged her and she exchanged her # with 3 guys and I was one of them. Wow, entitlement at its best! She sounded like a structured Brazilian chick with a checklist, so I probably dodged a bullet when she blocked me on OLD two days later.
I'll keep talking for a while to see what gets them intrigued so I can get better at interactions.
My sticking point is when they ghost, go radio silent, or block when I ask them out for a date. If I say "I'm busy, but I'd like to keep talking about _____, let's meet up for drinks." Do I sound like a player? wtf?....
For me, it doesn't make sense to waste time talking and then try to logistically find a middle spot to hang. What if I drove half way and she was a no show or had lukewarm IL at best?
Recent Example:
Last month, I exchanged messages back forth with a woman for a few days that lived nearly 2 hours away. I tried to set up a beach day which she shifted to a dinner date. She set up a phone call the next night to see how we got along. She pushed back the call time an hour when she missed the call time. That lowered my IL because she wasn't respecting my time and value.
My mistake in retrospect was allowing her to keep me on the phone too long so she lost interest. This chick bragged that 50 guys messaged her and she exchanged her # with 3 guys and I was one of them. Wow, entitlement at its best! She sounded like a structured Brazilian chick with a checklist, so I probably dodged a bullet when she blocked me on OLD two days later.
I'll keep talking for a while to see what gets them intrigued so I can get better at interactions.
My sticking point is when they ghost, go radio silent, or block when I ask them out for a date. If I say "I'm busy, but I'd like to keep talking about _____, let's meet up for drinks." Do I sound like a player? wtf?....