"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Guys how do you talk in clubs?

nando

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I tried today and the girl and I could not even have a decent convo, she could not even hear me and i was shouting, it felt like a waste of time :(. Do you recommend I stick to outside for pickups?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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DonJoseCantosie

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Try to move her to a quieter area of the club. If she's interested, she'll want to.
 

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ideally, you're supposed to dance with her a bit and then move her over to the bar/quiet area so you can talk better. Of course, that makes it impossible to qualify her up front, but I think that's about the best you can do at clubs. Those places aren't really for qualifying, anyway; they're made for having sex on the dance floor.
 

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either learn how to properly project your voice or lean in close to her ear and talk normally
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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This is why i hate clubs. I don't have a particularly strong voice and I have to shout just to order a drink. Seductive conversation is out of the question.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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DonJoseCantosie said:
Try to move her to a quieter area of the club. If she's interested, she'll want to.
The winner. :up:
 

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I totally hate it too. It's almost impossible to run game when you can't communicate. The best thing I have found is to put on your best smile, laugh and act like your having the most fun in your life. Since you can't hear her, she probally can't hear you. Very quickly after meeting you have to grab/hold her hand and try leading her to the dance floor then some place quitier. As long as she as interested she will go. The only way you can qualify is if you are a good dancer or any other non-verbal method. That is at least what I know from pass trials. Any club rats out there got a better method?
 

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^^^Good post, especially on the bit about quickly holding her hand.

Thanks Francisco as well :)
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Well everybody on this board wants to be an alpha male...an alpha male is one who dominates his environment. So if you want to be a badass in the club, take some dancing lessons. You might even meet some chicks in the process.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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MooseGod said:
Well everybody on this board wants to be an alpha male...an alpha male is one who dominates his environment. So if you want to be a badass in the club, take some dancing lessons. You might even meet some chicks in the process.
Ever think about the fact that Alphas are more preoccupied with what's going on around them than who's around them? I'd rather focus on the women around me, but that's just me. :cool:
 

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good advice guys keep it up. I also have same problem, just started going clubbing and the girls can hear me fine, but i can not hear them. Best to try chatting more away from speackers lol or maybe go to a quieter club/bar.
 

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Sam Adams said:
I totally hate it too. It's almost impossible to run game when you can't communicate. The best thing I have found is to put on your best smile, laugh and act like your having the most fun in your life. Since you can't hear her, she probally can't hear you. Very quickly after meeting you have to grab/hold her hand and try leading her to the dance floor then some place quitier. As long as she as interested she will go. The only way you can qualify is if you are a good dancer or any other non-verbal method. That is at least what I know from pass trials. Any club rats out there got a better method?
Hmmm, kino and conversation in a club but someplace other than the dancefloor. Nope, that's pretty much the best method.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Its possible and has been done. Why limit urself if u want to get good at most venues? Course the goal is to get laid, but conversation is a good idea. Its just "how" u conversation is the matter at hand.
 

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Kev07 said:
Why are you going to a club if your goal is to meet girls through conversation
Are conversations in clubs illegal? :confused:
 

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Its easy.

Approach--->Talk (in between, get close to her (make sure you wear cologne) and kino ----> continue chatting to get her smiling -----> take her outside to "smoke" or "get air".

9 outta 10, she'll go with you.
 

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mystery is such a piece of **** when he teaches people not to lean in to talk to a girl cuz it's like ur supplicating to them. You guys say stuff that makes much more sense
 

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Dongfu stole the words out of my bullhorn.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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