"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Guy will let me take initiative, won't take action

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This guy I like (I'm a gal) is telling me all the time that he will do whatever I want him to do and when I ask him out he comes but expects me to take initiative constantly. Why is he doing this?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Maybe because he's not man enough to take the initiative? A lot of guys have that problem and there's no single reason for it. That or he doesn't care. Probably the former.
 

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His momma told him that. ;)
 

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Things aren't going to change so just move on to someone else.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Because he's too nice. Find some other guy to like if it really bothers you.
 

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Depending on his age, maybe he just doesn't know what to do. In which case, if you know, and you want him, you'll just have to tell him what to do. We have 30 year plus virgins on this site, so don't be surprised if he needs guidance.

Alternatively, and there are these types around, we have had the odd one here, no pun intended, he could be a classic submissive guy looking for a dominant woman. You might not want to take on that role, but I'm led to believe there are large numbers of these types of men, so if you did accept that duty, they would probably be fighting for your attention, him included.

Since he wants to be lacking in initiative, I suggest that next time you are alone with him, you tell him that you want your feet licked. That will either make him or break him. If you think I am not serious you are wrong.
 

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You can't expect a reasonable answer to a question with such a brief sketch of information about your situation. Elaborate a bit more and you'll get a better response. Give me some details about yourself and this guy; ages, how long you've been together (are you even together?), have you got sexual with him, what do you do to take the initiative? Flesh this out more.
 

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kukulkana said:
This guy I like (I'm a gal) is telling me all the time that he will do whatever I want him to do and when I ask him out he comes but expects me to take initiative constantly. Why is he doing this?
Because he's a pvssy.

What kind of answer do you want from a guy's advice forum?
 

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kukulkama.......
maybe because you are more interested in him than the level of interest
that he feels for you????????????????????????/
or you're ugly.
whichever is happening means that you are in trouble.
if both of those situations are occuring at the same time then you are in some deep $hitt....
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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You posted in the wrong forum, this is the "Mature Man" forum. Plus, you didn't display your age, so you're a troll. Go find your answers at the Dr. Phil site.

Besides, dude sounds like a DJ. I mean, look at you! Coming to a men's site to ask about him? Your IL is through the roof, or you're psycho... hard to say.

I give dude:

:up: :up:
 

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He's too afraid to take the initiative because he's afraid you won't approve of his choices. It's that, or he truly doesn't give a 5hit.

He also doesn't understand that women love a man who takes the initiative. If this really bothers you, you're probably better off to find a different man because it's doubtful that he's going to change.
 

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For those who really want to help, here are some facts:

1) We work together alone in a room about once a month and although I am not his direct supervisor, I have to approve what he does
2) We both are married (he with a bunch of kids)
3) I am attractive and he gives me all the signs that he wouldn't ming a little fling - at all. :)
4) He keeps telling me to call him "if I need anything". And, oh yes, "I'm here to give you anything you need".
 

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both married = troll
work together = troll
Anything you need = troll

2 posts = troll
I'm a woman = troll
no age = troll
type-o's + lack of punctuation + smiley = young troll
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Alternatively, and there are these types around, we have had the odd one here, no pun intended, he could be a classic submissive guy looking for a dominant woman. You might not want to take on that role, but I'm led to believe there are large numbers of these types of men, so if you did accept that duty, they would probably be fighting for your attention, him included.
Right on, that's the feeling I get...

I have a wierd friend who is this way, he's a complete push-over but its his sexual interest. He goes to dominatrix and all that crazy stuff, his current gf actually bvtch slaps him in public and he just takes it, very odd but funny for us onlookers... he's a cool guy around us, but around her, wow he's like an untrained animal

I say give him a degrading 'ORDER' and if he complies, he's definitely one of those wierd guys who is submissive looking for some dominant sadist woman.

Tell him to lick your feet or playfully smack him and see his reaction, if he smiles or something, smack the shvt out of him and see what he does next. I'll place money he says 'sorry'.


I'm dead serious as well, no joking intended



-Cod3r
 

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Cod3r said:
Tell him to lick your feet or playfully smack him and see his reaction, if he smiles or something, smack the shvt out of him and see what he does next. I'll place money he says 'sorry'.


I'm dead serious as well, no joking intended



-Cod3r
Frankly, beating up people is not my piece of cake. But what if this guy just wants to please me? It sure seems great to have someone ready to do anything you like. I think I will take your suggestion and next time he offers, ask him to lick my foot and see what he does. I promise I'll tell you what happened.
 

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^ ^ I normally wouldn't advocate doing this to a fellow man...

But he kinda deserves it, just like the friend of mine, he's pathetic and deserves everything that girl gives him. Yeah keep me posted, but i have a feeling I already know what he's going to do lol


-Cod3r
 

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Cod3r said:
^ ^ I normally wouldn't advocate doing this to a fellow man...

But he kinda deserves it, just like the friend of mine, he's pathetic and deserves everything that girl gives him. Yeah keep me posted, but i have a feeling I already know what he's going to do lol


-Cod3r
As long as I do it with the intention to turn him on, it will work, I think. We may both have fun...
 
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