"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This guy I like (I'm a gal) is telling me all the time that he will do whatever I want him to do and when I ask him out he comes but expects me to take initiative constantly. Why is he doing this?
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Maybe because he's not man enough to take the initiative? A lot of guys have that problem and there's no single reason for it. That or he doesn't care. Probably the former.
 

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His momma told him that. ;)
 

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Things aren't going to change so just move on to someone else.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Because he's too nice. Find some other guy to like if it really bothers you.
 

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Depending on his age, maybe he just doesn't know what to do. In which case, if you know, and you want him, you'll just have to tell him what to do. We have 30 year plus virgins on this site, so don't be surprised if he needs guidance.

Alternatively, and there are these types around, we have had the odd one here, no pun intended, he could be a classic submissive guy looking for a dominant woman. You might not want to take on that role, but I'm led to believe there are large numbers of these types of men, so if you did accept that duty, they would probably be fighting for your attention, him included.

Since he wants to be lacking in initiative, I suggest that next time you are alone with him, you tell him that you want your feet licked. That will either make him or break him. If you think I am not serious you are wrong.
 

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You can't expect a reasonable answer to a question with such a brief sketch of information about your situation. Elaborate a bit more and you'll get a better response. Give me some details about yourself and this guy; ages, how long you've been together (are you even together?), have you got sexual with him, what do you do to take the initiative? Flesh this out more.
 

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kukulkana said:
This guy I like (I'm a gal) is telling me all the time that he will do whatever I want him to do and when I ask him out he comes but expects me to take initiative constantly. Why is he doing this?
Because he's a pvssy.

What kind of answer do you want from a guy's advice forum?
 

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kukulkama.......
maybe because you are more interested in him than the level of interest
that he feels for you????????????????????????/
or you're ugly.
whichever is happening means that you are in trouble.
if both of those situations are occuring at the same time then you are in some deep $hitt....
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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You posted in the wrong forum, this is the "Mature Man" forum. Plus, you didn't display your age, so you're a troll. Go find your answers at the Dr. Phil site.

Besides, dude sounds like a DJ. I mean, look at you! Coming to a men's site to ask about him? Your IL is through the roof, or you're psycho... hard to say.

I give dude:

:up: :up:
 

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He's too afraid to take the initiative because he's afraid you won't approve of his choices. It's that, or he truly doesn't give a 5hit.

He also doesn't understand that women love a man who takes the initiative. If this really bothers you, you're probably better off to find a different man because it's doubtful that he's going to change.
 

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For those who really want to help, here are some facts:

1) We work together alone in a room about once a month and although I am not his direct supervisor, I have to approve what he does
2) We both are married (he with a bunch of kids)
3) I am attractive and he gives me all the signs that he wouldn't ming a little fling - at all. :)
4) He keeps telling me to call him "if I need anything". And, oh yes, "I'm here to give you anything you need".
 

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both married = troll
work together = troll
Anything you need = troll

2 posts = troll
I'm a woman = troll
no age = troll
type-o's + lack of punctuation + smiley = young troll
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Alternatively, and there are these types around, we have had the odd one here, no pun intended, he could be a classic submissive guy looking for a dominant woman. You might not want to take on that role, but I'm led to believe there are large numbers of these types of men, so if you did accept that duty, they would probably be fighting for your attention, him included.
Right on, that's the feeling I get...

I have a wierd friend who is this way, he's a complete push-over but its his sexual interest. He goes to dominatrix and all that crazy stuff, his current gf actually bvtch slaps him in public and he just takes it, very odd but funny for us onlookers... he's a cool guy around us, but around her, wow he's like an untrained animal

I say give him a degrading 'ORDER' and if he complies, he's definitely one of those wierd guys who is submissive looking for some dominant sadist woman.

Tell him to lick your feet or playfully smack him and see his reaction, if he smiles or something, smack the shvt out of him and see what he does next. I'll place money he says 'sorry'.


I'm dead serious as well, no joking intended



-Cod3r
 

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Cod3r said:
Tell him to lick your feet or playfully smack him and see his reaction, if he smiles or something, smack the shvt out of him and see what he does next. I'll place money he says 'sorry'.


I'm dead serious as well, no joking intended



-Cod3r
Frankly, beating up people is not my piece of cake. But what if this guy just wants to please me? It sure seems great to have someone ready to do anything you like. I think I will take your suggestion and next time he offers, ask him to lick my foot and see what he does. I promise I'll tell you what happened.
 

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^ ^ I normally wouldn't advocate doing this to a fellow man...

But he kinda deserves it, just like the friend of mine, he's pathetic and deserves everything that girl gives him. Yeah keep me posted, but i have a feeling I already know what he's going to do lol


-Cod3r
 

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Cod3r said:
^ ^ I normally wouldn't advocate doing this to a fellow man...

But he kinda deserves it, just like the friend of mine, he's pathetic and deserves everything that girl gives him. Yeah keep me posted, but i have a feeling I already know what he's going to do lol


-Cod3r
As long as I do it with the intention to turn him on, it will work, I think. We may both have fun...
 
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