"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Guy to pay for second date?

Atldude

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hey is it bad form if the bill comes and the waiter asks who should pay and she offers... to let her pay... cause apparently i got dinged because of that... there were 4 of us altogether.. and i already made the effort to fly over to see her... i did do the asking out though... lol..

thanks
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Atldude said:
hey is it bad form if the bill comes and the waiter asks who should pay and she offers... to let her pay... cause apparently i got dinged because of that... there were 4 of us altogether.. and i already made the effort to fly over to see her... i did do the asking out though... lol..

thanks
Okay screw the bill but you flew over to see a chick ??? You wasted hard earned cash to go see tits and a$$ for a date, cant you find a chick in your own city ?

I just find that stupid actually and also the last time I had a "date" was around 2 years ago cause the whole go eat and talk crap bores the sh!t out of me.
 

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Always pay for the date/dinner - NO exceptions

But remember this - you should always be the one asking her out AND planning the date anyways

So you should never be shocked by the cost of the dinner since you obviously already took that into account when you chose the place

Remember the words of the legendary poster Pook - the girl is in YOUR world now - and chosing the restaurant and paying for it solidifes that

NOTE - you don't have to take her to an expensive restaurant - your goal is not to please her, but to please YOURSELF and have fun. I've done cheap, simple dates that ended up with simple dinners (~ $20 at a Thai restaurant) - but I've also planned dates that were a bit more 'upscale' - where I dropped $150 - try Hot Chocolate in Chicago

Open question to all - do you actually like it when a girl offers to pay?

I actually hate it when a girl offers to pay.

The girls I like and take out are always the hyper-feminine, super passive, dependent spoiled types - they just expect you to pay.
 

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Eh, it depends on the situation.

If she offers to pay, I don't see a problem. But don't think buying dinner is going to get her into the sack.

She made that decision long before you two met up.

Trader, you sound like you need some Leykis. $150? Are you nuts?
 

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Hm well u asked her out so yeh u pay for date, but if she says no and offers to pay it herself let her. With any girl i have dated i wud usually pay first even if they offered then next time she usually buys me something or pays for something and i accept then a continuous cycle of that again and again. If my date was to always make me pay i wud ditch them, but thats just me. Go to pay and watch what she does and decide on ur own what actions to take.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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From a cultural standpoint, society assumes that the man will pay for at least the first couple dates.

While that trend has changed slightly over the past couple decades (women lib, etc) - many still hold the opinion that the guy needs to grab the check.

It appears that your date was one of the ones whom felt that it was your responsibility.

Good Luck,
Relationship-Buddy
 

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Rhoto said:
Eh, it depends on the situation.

If she offers to pay, I don't see a problem. But don't think buying dinner is going to get her into the sack.

She made that decision long before you two met up.

Trader, you sound like you need some Leykis. $150? Are you nuts?
Ha - I agree that taking her out for an expensive dinner does nothing to help you have sex with her.

But sex is not my goal. My goal is to have fun. Sometimes I just want to take my girl to a high class place and relax.

But if the girl started to demand that I take her to a high class restaurant - I would NEXT her in a heartbeat. I call the shots - I decide whether the date is simple, or a bit more up-scale.

BTW - Leykis is the man
 
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