“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Guy to pay for second date?

Atldude

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hey is it bad form if the bill comes and the waiter asks who should pay and she offers... to let her pay... cause apparently i got dinged because of that... there were 4 of us altogether.. and i already made the effort to fly over to see her... i did do the asking out though... lol..

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Atldude said:
hey is it bad form if the bill comes and the waiter asks who should pay and she offers... to let her pay... cause apparently i got dinged because of that... there were 4 of us altogether.. and i already made the effort to fly over to see her... i did do the asking out though... lol..

thanks
Okay screw the bill but you flew over to see a chick ??? You wasted hard earned cash to go see tits and a$$ for a date, cant you find a chick in your own city ?

I just find that stupid actually and also the last time I had a "date" was around 2 years ago cause the whole go eat and talk crap bores the sh!t out of me.
 

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Always pay for the date/dinner - NO exceptions

But remember this - you should always be the one asking her out AND planning the date anyways

So you should never be shocked by the cost of the dinner since you obviously already took that into account when you chose the place

Remember the words of the legendary poster Pook - the girl is in YOUR world now - and chosing the restaurant and paying for it solidifes that

NOTE - you don't have to take her to an expensive restaurant - your goal is not to please her, but to please YOURSELF and have fun. I've done cheap, simple dates that ended up with simple dinners (~ $20 at a Thai restaurant) - but I've also planned dates that were a bit more 'upscale' - where I dropped $150 - try Hot Chocolate in Chicago

Open question to all - do you actually like it when a girl offers to pay?

I actually hate it when a girl offers to pay.

The girls I like and take out are always the hyper-feminine, super passive, dependent spoiled types - they just expect you to pay.
 

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Eh, it depends on the situation.

If she offers to pay, I don't see a problem. But don't think buying dinner is going to get her into the sack.

She made that decision long before you two met up.

Trader, you sound like you need some Leykis. $150? Are you nuts?
 

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Hm well u asked her out so yeh u pay for date, but if she says no and offers to pay it herself let her. With any girl i have dated i wud usually pay first even if they offered then next time she usually buys me something or pays for something and i accept then a continuous cycle of that again and again. If my date was to always make me pay i wud ditch them, but thats just me. Go to pay and watch what she does and decide on ur own what actions to take.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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From a cultural standpoint, society assumes that the man will pay for at least the first couple dates.

While that trend has changed slightly over the past couple decades (women lib, etc) - many still hold the opinion that the guy needs to grab the check.

It appears that your date was one of the ones whom felt that it was your responsibility.

Good Luck,
Relationship-Buddy
 

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Rhoto said:
Eh, it depends on the situation.

If she offers to pay, I don't see a problem. But don't think buying dinner is going to get her into the sack.

She made that decision long before you two met up.

Trader, you sound like you need some Leykis. $150? Are you nuts?
Ha - I agree that taking her out for an expensive dinner does nothing to help you have sex with her.

But sex is not my goal. My goal is to have fun. Sometimes I just want to take my girl to a high class place and relax.

But if the girl started to demand that I take her to a high class restaurant - I would NEXT her in a heartbeat. I call the shots - I decide whether the date is simple, or a bit more up-scale.

BTW - Leykis is the man
 
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